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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    IMHO, there was quite a lot of irony in Beck's rally being held on the day of King's "I have a dream speech", and on the very spot he gave that speech. There was a lot of talk about getting the government out of people's lives, and I liked that to quite an extent. However, this is where the irony kicks in. I remember Selma Alabama and Jackson Mississippi in the 1960's, when blacks were murdered and churches blown up because people wanted to exercise their constitutional right to vote, to get served at lunch counters, and to ride in the front of the bus. It was in that context that Martin Luther King made that famous speech, and in that speech, he was not advocating for less government, but for more government, in order to protect the rights of those who were being murdered and their churches blown up.

    On this day in history, I very much respect the fact that Beck and Palin ran a good and peaceful show, and put out a great message of Americans coming together. I think Dr. King would have liked that. But let us also remember that, no matter how much we are against the government controlling our lives, there are pivotal times in history when government intervention is absolutely vital, in order to protect the rights of ALL Americans. Let us never forget what the civil rights struggle was really all about.
    Very true, but the Left has FUBAR'ed the Civil Rights Movement. It's been turned into the Civil Rights Industry and led to not just the physical oppression of blacks, but the economic oppression, as well. The Left has twisted the meaning of the CRM from, everyone having the same rights and equal protection of those rights into, it's ok to take away the rights of some Americans, so we can turn around and give those rights to other Americans.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Very true, but the Left has FUBAR'ed the Civil Rights Movement. It's been turned into the Civil Rights Industry and led to not just the physical oppression of blacks, but the economic oppression, as well. The Left has twisted the meaning of the CRM from, everyone having the same rights and equal protection of those rights into, it's ok to take away the rights of some Americans, so we can turn around and give those rights to other Americans.
    Wow. More generalizations from you?!??! What a surprise!??!?

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Wow...so you're judging Jesse Jackson and throwing him in jail, why? Because you find his character lacking? Who gets the right to throw people in jail just because of they lack character? What crimes can you prove that these two men committed so that you may throw them in jail?
    Jackson extorted $700 million from Toyota a few years ago. I think extortion is a crime; is it not? Al Sharpton was involved in a drug deal back in day. Dealing drugs is a crime, too; I think. That's just the stuff we know about.

    I believe that Beck has even less character and is nothing more than a charlatan taking people's money the same way Jimmy Swaggert bilked religious people for millions. I've still said he deserves the right to do that since it's technically not illegal.

    So, your way of "restoring honor" in America is rounding up those you disagree with and throwing them in jail?

    Sounds about like what a Beck believer would say.
    Nice job at twisting not only my comments, but the truth. How is Glenn Beck bilking people out of their money?
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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Wow. More generalizations from you?!??! What a surprise!??!?
    No generalization. It would cause the financial ruin of Jackson, Sharpton and the NAACP if black folks pulled themselves up by their boot straps one day. As long as blacks are poor, on welfare, drug addicts, alcoholics and killing each other over tennis shoes, the Civil Rights Industry can make millions of dollars off that, every year.
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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    It's coming back on C-Span right now. Check it out.
    I watched it earlier.
    The honor part, the way I took it was restoring our own individual honor (integrity)
    GB should start with himself.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No generalization. It would cause the financial ruin of Jackson, Sharpton and the NAACP if black folks pulled themselves up by their boot straps one day. As long as blacks are poor, on welfare, drug addicts, alcoholics and killing each other over tennis shoes, the Civil Rights Industry can make millions of dollars off that, every year.
    You just painted an entire race out to be poor, on welfare, drug addicts, alcoholics, and murderers and claim that you support and understand the Civil Rights Movement? Really?

    This discussion is pretty much done.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You just painted an entire race out to be poor, on welfare, drug addicts, alcoholics, and murderers and claim that you support and understand the Civil Rights Movement? Really?

    This discussion is pretty much done.
    For the most part, that described the Black Community in America. It's just a fact, denial isn't going to change it. It's the reason that the NAACP and The Rainbow Coalition exist. Jackson and Charpton make millions off the plight of black in America.

    Are you saying that the CRM was all about making things worse for blacks? Because that's all it's done.

    My understanding of the CRM didn't mean more welfare, more racial quotas, more hate crimes legislation, more racial gerrymandering so that more black politicians could get elected, more public housing and the, "you owe me something", attitude.

    I sure as hell don't recall the CRM saying anything about extorting money from large coporations to fund Rainbow PUSH.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No fighting, no guns, no riots. Just well behaved ordinary people who believe this country has taken a wrong turn.
    No point. No coherent message. No real issues. Just a bunch of people who still haven't gotten over the outcome of the 2008 election.

    I take back what I said about staining the memories of Lincoln and MLK. GB and Palin aren't capable of doing that on their best (worst) days. Their lackluster exercise in kitchen sink generalities was like watching a flea circus at the Coliseum. "Louder, we can't hear you." Don't worry, they're not really saying anything.

    Thought for the day: *Yawn* What time does our bus leave, do we have time to catch an Imax movie?

    I swear I saw Lincoln smirking down at the pudgy little man at the podium. "You lost, son?"

    Note to TeaPeople: W/O your signs, you're not as interesting to watch.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    No point. No coherent message. No real issues. Just a bunch of people who still haven't gotten over the outcome of the 2008 election.

    I take back what I said about staining the memories of Lincoln and MLK. GB and Palin aren't capable of doing that on their best (worst) days. Their lackluster exercise in kitchen sink generalities was like watching a flea circus at the Coliseum. "Louder, we can't hear you." Don't worry, they're not really saying anything.

    Thought for the day: *Yawn* What time does our bus leave, do we have time to catch an Imax movie?

    I swear I saw Lincoln smirking down at the pudgy little man at the podium. "You lost, son?"

    Note to TeaPeople: W/O your signs, you're not as interesting to watch.
    We know what you think about the black Americans that attended the rally, too. Buncha, "token niggers", eh?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    IMHO, there was quite a lot of irony in Beck's rally being held on the day of King's "I have a dream speech", and on the very spot he gave that speech.
    Wrong again Dan. He said specifically the speech would take place steps down from where MLK stood out of respect. God I wish you would research the basic facts just once. He made that point very clear.

    There was a lot of talk about getting the government out of people's lives, and I liked that to quite an extent. However, this is where the irony kicks in. I remember Selma Alabama and Jackson Mississippi in the 1960's, when blacks were murdered and churches blown up because people wanted to exercise their constitutional right to vote, to get served at lunch counters, and to ride in the front of the bus. It was in that context that Martin Luther King made that famous speech, and in that speech, he was not advocating for less government, but for more government, in order to protect the rights of those who were being murdered and their churches blown up.
    How did Beck advocate segregation in that speech Dan?

    On this day in history, I very much respect the fact that Beck and Palin ran a good and peaceful show, and put out a great message of Americans coming together. I think Dr. King would have liked that. But let us also remember that, no matter how much we are against the government controlling our lives, there are pivotal times in history when government intervention is absolutely vital, in order to protect the rights of ALL Americans. Let us never forget what the civil rights struggle was really all about.
    The civil rights movement was not about expanding government but for equal rights for all races. Those are not synonymous
    Last edited by texmaster; 08-29-10 at 02:36 PM.
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