Page 15 of 31 FirstFirst ... 5131415161725 ... LastLast
Results 141 to 150 of 307

Thread: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

  1. #141
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,814

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Some may say "racist", but I don't.

    What I did say the other day, though, was this.

    The Republican Party certainly has trouble appealing to minorities - blacks, Hispanics (this a new problem that Bush didn't have), gays.

    That's not the same thing as saying they're racist, is it? And I don't think it's pretty safe to say.

    Hell, I was scolded because I said, Glenn Beck doesn't appeal to black too much either. I backed that statement up by pointing to information from his own website that showed his demographics are only 2% black. The victim card was played again, saying I called Beck a racist.

    I honestly think the race victim card is being played more and more by white conservatives. You can make a simple point: your message isn't working with minorities very well; back that with numbers; and then they say, "Don't call me racist! I work with a black!"

    If conservatives have picked up on one thing from liberals, and Beck is one of the best at this, it's how to play the victim.

    I mean seriously - Palin goes off on anyone who uses "retarded" for any reason (except Rush Limbaugh); but then supports Dr. Laura for using the n-word. And Dr. Laura claims to be a victim and acting as if she's getting fired - when she's her own boss.
    the GOP has trouble appealing to people who see the government as their savior and whose leaders feel a need to blame racism for their peoples's troubles. THe dems have spent 80 years making many minorities the dependent wards of the state and their strategy has paid off in lock step voting patterns of those so addicted to handouts



  2. #142
    Educator Jucon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    USA
    Last Seen
    04-22-14 @ 07:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    787

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yout Star, the elected leaders vote along party lines and are identified that way by their party by the public. While you can rightly claim that most racists were from the South it is also clear that they were racist Democrats. It is the Democrats who have the racist past, not the Republicans. That it abundantly clear.
    How is that abundently clear? Northern democrats were strongly in favor.

    It was a North / South thing, as Your Star said.
    "There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, it to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." óJohn Adams

  3. #143
    Sage
    pbrauer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    11-27-15 @ 03:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,394

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I never refered to you as racist, Filmfestguy, but in fact Democrats, and of course Leftists, frequently refer to Republicans as racist while always denying, or spinning,their racist past. I agree they are having difficulty recruiting minority groups and that reflects the very successful campaign by Democrats that it was really the Republicans who were historically racist.
    So, according to you blacks can't think for themselves?


  4. #144
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And if you knew how to analyze history correctly you would know that the democrats had a stranglehold on the because Lincoln was a republican, and the resentment from the civil war made it hard for anyone to win in the south running under "Lincoln's party"
    Also the republicans didn't dominate the north. Just look at my numbers in this post . I'm sorry, but facts destroy your narrative.
    Yes, I agree that the Democrats wanted nothing to do with Lincoln because of the Slave issue, and of course those sentiments carried through to the very recent past. Only with the death of Robert Byrd is the old guard finally disappearing.

    While you are obviously keen to make this a North/South issue, and thats fine, it is really a Republican versus Democrat issue and, even according to your own post, it was the Democrats who were the racists, disavowing Lincoln's struggles until just recently. A million excuses won't change the facts.

  5. #145
    Sage
    pbrauer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    11-27-15 @ 03:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,394

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the GOP has trouble appealing to people who see the government as their savior and whose leaders feel a need to blame racism for their peoples's troubles. THe dems have spent 80 years making many minorities the dependent wards of the state and their strategy has paid off in lock step voting patterns of those so addicted to handouts
    So, according to you, minorities want to be dependent and not work?


  6. #146
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So, according to you blacks can't think for themselves?
    And i said that where?

    You want to start getting rude?? Is that encouraged here?

  7. #147
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So, according to you, minorities want to be dependent and not work?

    Anyone can become dependent on government handouts, not just minorities.

  8. #148
    Professor

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    Last Seen
    11-21-14 @ 03:20 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    2,120

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then we would have to ask ourselves what drew people to the Democratic Party, knowing its racist past.

    What do you think it was?
    It's not that hard, honestly.

    John F. Kennedy (with Johnson actually signing the legislation) is a huge hero in African-American households. As was his brother Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was in my hometown of Indianapolis on the night of Dr. King's assassination. He delivered the news to a large crowd (mostly inner-city blacks) that Dr. King had been killed. Indianapolis was the only city of major size to have no riots on that night. Robert Kennedy: Delivering News of King's Death : NPR

    They were Democrats. That's not that hard to figure out. It doesn't help that Strom Thurmond (who ran for president specifically on a segregationist platform in 1948) switched to the Republican Party in 1964 as a result of the passage of Civil Rights legislation. And with him, South Carolina flipped from Democrat to Republican.

    So, were Democrats the more racist party in the South at one point? Yes. Upon passage of the Civil Rights legislation of the early 1960s, they flipped to the Republican Party. For instance, Kennedy (a integrationalist Democrat) barely one South Carolina, and Republicans have won every election ever since.

  9. #149
    Hippie Hater
    texmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas TEXAS
    Last Seen
    08-20-15 @ 01:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    3,969

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, a judge found that banning gay marriage violated the constitution. That is a large difference.
    How? There was never an intention to extend the right to marry based on race to sexual preference which is the decesion he cited. Why even have ammendments if you can reintrepret law clearly not intended for what you are arguing?
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    John Adams

  10. #150
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    It's not that hard, honestly.

    John F. Kennedy (with Johnson actually signing the legislation) is a huge hero in African-American households. As was his brother Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was in my hometown of Indianapolis on the night of Dr. King's assassination. He delivered the news to a large crowd (mostly inner-city blacks) that Dr. King had been killed. Indianapolis was the only city of major size to have no riots on that night. Robert Kennedy: Delivering News of King's Death : NPR

    They were Democrats. That's not that hard to figure out. It doesn't help that Strom Thurmond (who ran for president specifically on a segregationist platform in 1948) switched to the Republican Party in 1964 as a result of the passage of Civil Rights legislation. And with him, South Carolina flipped from Democrat to Republican.

    So, were Democrats the more racist party in the South at one point? Yes. Upon passage of the Civil Rights legislation of the early 1960s, they flipped to the Republican Party. For instance, Kennedy (a integrationalist Democrat) barely one South Carolina, and Republicans have won every election ever since.
    I can see why some Blacks would support the Democrats out of sympathy for JFK and Bobby Kennedy but not almost 50 years later. There are other issues which have arisen since then.

    Yes, the South did change from solid Democrat to Republican but that could also be construed as them being eager to get rid of their racist past and start afresh with new beginnings. I believe that's been the attitude of the South since then, though remnants remain.

Page 15 of 31 FirstFirst ... 5131415161725 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •