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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yeah, the Dems changed and got us involved in Vietnam and tried to spread American influence through the military They also increased the budget deficit by spending a lot of money on the war. Ironic isn't it?
    Quite right, Digsbe, and in fact it was the Democrats who got America involved in WWI, WWII, the Korean War and then Vietnam. It was a Republican who ended the Vietnam War, of course.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How so, Pbrauer?

    It was the Republicans who were iin the majority in voting for this bill and was opposed by moreso by the Democrats.

    The original House version:[10]

    * Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%39%)
    * Republican Party: 138-34 (80%20%)

    Cloture in the Senate:[11]

    * Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%34%)
    * Republican Party: 27-6 (82%18%)

    The Senate version:[10]

    * Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%31%)
    * Republican Party: 27-6 (82%18%)

    The Senate version, voted on by the House:[10]

    * Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%37%)
    * Republican Party: 136-35 (80%20%)

    Democrats such as George Wallace and Orville Faubus, and of course the late Robert Byrd, should be remembered for their Democratic party membership as well as their very public racism. Since then I've seen no evidence that the Democrats have changed all that much, except in their rhetoric and opportunistic propaganda.
    Read my post a few pages back about how it was a Northern, Southern divide between the Civil Rights act, not a Democratic, Republican divide.
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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    He said parties change, not that parties switch around the same views over, and over again. And I don't try to paint republicans as racist, most of my family is republican, why I would I try to paint them as racist?

    And for heavens sake Obi Wan Kenobi isn't president. Stop taking acid.
    I use Obi because it's short. Just as I used Jet.
    And how has who changed, that is what I would like to know... have at it it too of you like.
    Your and Jets views ought to be interesting.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Quite right, Digsbe, and in fact it was the Democrats who got America involved in WWI, WWII, the Korean War and then Vietnam. It was a Republican who ended the Vietnam War, of course.
    Are you saying we should have not gotten involved in World War I and World War II after being attacked at Pearl Harbor?
    Did you know President Nixon campaigned on ending the war in Vietnam and yet over 20,000 of our service men died there.


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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    He said parties change, not that parties switch around the same views over, and over again. And I don't try to paint republicans as racist, most of my family is republican, why I would I try to paint them as racist?

    And for heavens sake Obi Wan Kenobi isn't president. Stop taking acid.
    You mean that the Democratic party isn't as racist as it once was Your Star?

    I quite agree, but it certainly didn't occur without a great deal of pressure from the Republican Party.

    Since that time the Democrats have been painting the Republicans as "racists", and many new Democrats appear to have bought into that idea. These people, while probably being quite decent in many other areas, are not terribly bright.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How so, Pbrauer?

    It was the Republicans who were iin the majority in voting for this bill and was opposed by moreso by the Democrats.

    The original House version:[10]

    * Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%39%)
    * Republican Party: 138-34 (80%20%)

    Cloture in the Senate:[11]

    * Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%34%)
    * Republican Party: 27-6 (82%18%)

    The Senate version:[10]

    * Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%31%)
    * Republican Party: 27-6 (82%18%)

    The Senate version, voted on by the House:[10]

    * Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%37%)
    * Republican Party: 136-35 (80%20%)

    Democrats such as George Wallace and Orville Faubus, and of course the late Robert Byrd, should be remembered for their Democratic party membership as well as their very public racism. Since then I've seen no evidence that the Democrats have changed all that much, except in their rhetoric and opportunistic propaganda.
    I think you should take another gander at those numbers. Who had the most votes Republican or Democrats. Percentages don't mean ****.


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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Are you saying we should have not gotten involved in World War I and World War II after being attacked at Pearl Harbor?
    Did you know President Nixon campaigned on ending the war in Vietnam and yet over 20,000 of our service men died there.
    I don''t believe that the Americans, or Canadians, should have gotten involved in WWI. Germany didn't attack America at Pearl Harbor, Japan did.

    Richard Nixon still got the Americans out of Vietnam, a war begun and escalated by the Democrats.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think you should take another gander at those numbers. Who had the most votes Republican or Democrats. Percentages don't mean ****.
    Percentages mean nothing?

    That Bill would not have passed were it not for the Republicans and it was the Southern Democrats who most opposed it. The history is clear and readily available.

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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I use Obi because it's short. Just as I used Jet.
    And how has who changed, that is what I would like to know... have at it it too of you like.
    Your and Jets views ought to be interesting.

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    Using the parties of the past as a pro, or con, for something, or someone, or trying to compare them to the parties today isn't a proper use of history.
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    Re: Beck, Palin Stress 'Honor' at Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    millions are, apparently

    indeed, 54% of DEMOCRATS nationally don't believe barack hussein when he tells THEM he's christian

    Growing Number of Americans Say Obama is a Muslim: OVERVIEW - Pew Research Center for the People & the Press

    go figure
    Stupidity doesn't have a political party.

    Go figure.

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