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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I seem to remember you saying you were some kind of weather expert in the Navy.

    I guess you were exaggerating because any expert will tell you that all weather is a function of heat. And this was caused by man-made global warming.

    Is this your way of coming clean and admitting that in all those old posts you really weren't the expert you pretended to be?
    He did but since he is claiming to be an "aerographer's mate" he obviously does know know the difference between weather and climate
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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I seem to remember you saying you were some kind of weather expert in the Navy.

    I guess you were exaggerating because any expert will tell you that all weather is a function of heat. And this was caused by man-made global warming.

    Is this your way of coming clean and admitting that in all those old posts you really weren't the expert you pretended to be?
    You sir, missed the question, so did your new friend.

    Then you obviously do not understand the basic premise of climate change
    I talked about Climatic Forces. Our Orbit, and the Sun's output > all other factors in Climate. Period.

    Saying "all weather is the function of heat" is... silly. You missed a word.

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    But he didn't ask about weather, he asked about Climate.

    Weather - study of short-term changes in the atmosphere.
    Climate - the combination of weather elements that characterize an area over a long term. Takes into account seasonal changes as well as short term extreme fluctuations.
    MOISTURE

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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You sir, missed the question, so did your new friend.



    I talked about Climatic Forces. Our Orbit, and the Sun's output > all other factors in Climate. Period.
    yes but the whole thing about "tipping points" seems to have passed you by - which is really the difference between a meterologist and a climatologist - the latter has studied paleoclimatology.

    Atmospheric composition I woud suggest is an even bigger influence than either solar output or orbit
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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    He did but since he is claiming to be an "aerographer's mate" he obviously does know know the difference between weather and climate
    Oddly, in most of his GW / Environment posts, he confuses them all the time.

    You'd think someone with that type of training wouldn't be taken in so easily by the partisan hackery and propaganda on this issue. I mean, even the untrained novice can see right through the likes of Jim Inhof.

    At least he had the courage to post this in the first place. Maybe he is coming around.

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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    damn, that's really gonna bugger up the ecology there for a long time.
    It is not an ecological disaster. The Earth wants to do this. Its not like we dumped tomato sauce in there. It is the Earth doing what it needs to do.
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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Oddly, in most of his GW / Environment posts, he confuses them all the time.

    You'd think someone with that type of training wouldn't be taken in so easily by the partisan hackery and propaganda on this issue. I mean, even the untrained novice can see right through the likes of Jim Inhof.

    At least he had the courage to post this in the first place. Maybe he is coming around.
    This is what amuses and appalls me - the same people who were frothing at the mouth over the leaked emails swallow whole things like the "Oregon Petition" which is such an obvious fraud
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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    This is what amuses and appalls me - the same people who were frothing at the mouth over the leaked emails swallow whole things like the "Oregon Petition" which is such an obvious fraud
    Oregon Petition = Dentists, Chiropractors, and former weather men.

    Scientific American did a piece on one of those 'Petitions'. They took a sampling of 200 names and the results were very humorous. My Congressman still has Fred Seitz's petition listed on his website. I written him asking him to take it down, but no go.

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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    It is not an ecological disaster. The Earth wants to do this. Its not like we dumped tomato sauce in there. It is the Earth doing what it needs to do.
    the earth is not sentient, it obeys the laws of physics, and thus physics ****ed over the fish, this could lead to any number of scenarios that could kill the river life, and only be able to recover in the long term.
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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Oregon Petition = Dentists, Chiropractors, and former weather men.

    Scientific American did a piece on one of those 'Petitions'. They took a sampling of 200 names and the results were very humorous. My Congressman still has Fred Seitz's petition listed on his website. I written him asking him to take it down, but no go.
    Add to that the cherry picking of data and quotes, the use and referencing to the same sixty or so names (out of tens of thousands worldwide) IF there is any referencing.

    The sad part is that most people are scientifically illiterate and genuinely do not know the difference between a blog and a research paper
    Greenhouse gases: Any gas that, by an accident of chemistry, happens to absorb radiation of a type that the Earth, by an accident of history, would like to lose.
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    Re: Cold empties Bolivian rivers of fish

    You know, when someone comes out with a statistic about how hot a certain place has gotten hotter, the deniers will be the first to jump in and shout, "Climate is not weather!!" And yet... the second they find an instance of a place being colder than normal, they think they've struck gold.

    Gotta love the double standard.
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