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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I'd actually like to see an investigation into the Iraq War... The British put Tony Blair on trial and demanded answers. In America, we look the other way. It's kind f**ked up IMO.
    Sorry, but the British did NOT put Blair on trial. They had an inquiry to determine what happened in Iraq and what lessons could be learned.

    We "looked" the other way because there was nothing to see. Those that believe Bush lied about Iraq are as pathetic as Obama birthers.

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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    hillary (who announced two weeks ago she would not be returning, she just can't take it anymore, all the amateurs and lack of professionalism) on abc and nbc yesterday conceded that congress indeed is entitled to answers to the obvious questions concerning our rather rash rush into libya

    so obama's going on primetime tonite to EXPLAIN

    you don't want to miss it, it should be fascinating, he's scheduled from the oval office (i presume) at 7:30 eastern

    look for answers to questions aware americans anticipate:

    1. days, not weeks?

    2. get gadaffi or not?

    3. regime change?

    4. how much us investment in this "nato operation?"

    5. what's the chain of command?

    6. what are the anticipated costs and payfor?

    7. when and how will congress be consulted?

    8. how's this all fit into the broader middle east?

    9. exactly who are these rebels we're aiding and will we be arming them?

    10. and the biggie---NATION BUILDING?

    what can he possibly say?

    how much can he credibly avoid?

    stay tuned

    tonite is gonna be HUGE
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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Sorry, but the British did NOT put Blair on trial. They had an inquiry to determine what happened in Iraq and what lessons could be learned.

    We "looked" the other way because there was nothing to see. Those that believe Bush lied about Iraq are as pathetic as Obama birthers.
    Inquiry/trial whatever.... I still think it's fair to do the same to Bush, because, for one, his reason for the war kept flipping and changing... and for two, is our intel really that bad off?

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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    Funny but strange. And bankrupt.
    You're both bankrupt... They are just noting your sides hypocrisy and you're noting theirs.

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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    what is more important to 'you, personally?

    Blaming Bush for the last fiasco, or getting Obama to solve the current fiasco?
    Of course, solving the current problems we face. However, that doesn't mean that we forget how we got into this mess in the first place. If you fail to recognize your history you are doomed to repeat it.
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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Funny how the extreme left only can blame Bush after two plus years with total control.


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    Funny how you left out that the extreme right does the exact same thing. Some of the people I respect most (both here and in life) are those who are able to take moderate views of either lean.

    Also, while the present should certainly be a priority there is absolutely no reason to ignore history.
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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Inquiry/trial whatever.... I still think it's fair to do the same to Bush, because, for one, his reason for the war kept flipping and changing... and for two, is our intel really that bad off?
    Yeah, I mean an inquiry into how it happened is no different than putting Blair on criminal / civil trial .... right ???



    and no, Bush's reasons for war did NOT keep flipping and changing.

    and, yes, obviously our intel, along with almost every other country's intel and the UN's IAEA was wrong because Saddam wanted everyone to believe he had WMDs.
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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Of course, solving the current problems we face. However, that doesn't mean that we forget how we got into this mess in the first place. If you fail to recognize your history you are doomed to repeat it.

    Getting into the mess was not a single President's affair. This problem with ME, and Muslim countries dates back to the founding of this country. When you understand that you will truly realize how void of actual consideration your comments to deflect accountability of the current administration really is.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestLib
    Funny how you left out that the extreme right does the exact same thing. Some of the people I respect most (both here and in life) are those who are able to take moderate views of either lean.
    Ofcourse you are going to be able to pick out certain hypocrisies in political argument that are what you think are 'ah ha' moments, however if you really look at the situation there are differences that point to this administration glaring in their lack of leadership skill, and while when not in office yet railing against the very same argument they are now making with a straight face to the public.

    Weather you 'respect' me or not is not of real concern to me, we are on the internet, faceless, and nameless. You don't know me, and I don't know you. However, in judging your post I would say that 'moderate views' are the last things you really want to see.

    Also, while the present should certainly be a priority there is absolutely no reason to ignore history.
    Who's ignoring it? I would say that you are cherry picking it to fit your defense of a vapid, weak administration all in favor of an ideology.

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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    today:

    Tensions have flared between career bureaucrats and political appointees at the Department of Homeland Security’s Freedom of Information Act fulfillment operation, according to agency emails and other documents obtained during a probe by a top House investigative committee that will come to a head at a hearing on Thursday.

    The documents, and interviews conducted by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, paint appointees and bureaucrats as at odds with one another, with a senior appointee even calling one worker “a lunatic.”

    One example of the sniping is detailed in emails and documents obtained by POLITICO. In a 2009 email, Amy Shlossmann, Secretary Janet Napolitano’s deputy chief of staff, called a FOIA employee “a lunatic” and instructed her staff to attend a presentation by a career employee “if nothing else, for the comic relief.”

    The Associated Press reported Monday that it obtained emails where DHS FOIA officers called political vetting of requests as “crazy” and “bananas,” for creating extreme delays.

    The Associated Press has also reported that it took months to obtain agency emails related to the Christmas Day bomber in 2009. The news service said the number of emails DHS produced didn’t add up, something the agency denies.
    Probe reveals tensions at the Department of Homeland Security - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

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    Re: GOP plans wave of White House probes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    After all the shady back door deals that Democrats have been involved in since Obama took office, they damned well do some honest investigating. Not to mention looking into all the tax evasion by democrats and appointees in the administration.
    Obama is probably the only person in his cabinets meetings that has paid his taxes.
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