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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    This policy isn't "racist" against anyone; it is a well-intentioned policy that was probably almost unthinkably progressive thirty years ago when it was conceived: basically, in order to effect racial equality in student government, blacks and whites were forced to take turns filling different student government positions.
    The community has now moved beyond the need for such a policy, apparently, and it's right that it be done away with at this time.
    But it's stupid to claim it wasn't needed or useful thirty years ago, in the recently-segregated South, or that it's "racist".

    It indeed wasn't needed and surely lost its usefulness after 30 years. The law can only go so far, it can make sure every person gets their fair opportunity. If the state don't want you, there's always another state that would take you in. Remember, it's not the government's job to tell its people what to do.

    Also this is blatantly going against the Civil Rights Act as there can not be any race, gender, etc. to prohibit a selection. Well this is a clear example of that if you changed all the White positions to Black and people are arguing about the Black student wanting to be the reporter. Just saying....
    We the People of the United States,... provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare....
    Where did it ever say, promote for the common defence, and provide the general Welfare..... Please don't mix up the two....

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by MCS117 View Post
    It indeed wasn't needed and surely lost its usefulness after 30 years. The law can only go so far, it can make sure every person gets their fair opportunity. If the state don't want you, there's always another state that would take you in. Remember, it's not the government's job to tell its people what to do.

    Also this is blatantly going against the Civil Rights Act as there can not be any race, gender, etc. to prohibit a selection. Well this is a clear example of that if you changed all the White positions to Black and people are arguing about the Black student wanting to be the reporter. Just saying....
    30 years ago, the South was still severely socially imbalanced because of the aftereffects of years of segregation and Jim Crow laws.
    It is not your place to say whether this policy was useful or needed 30 years ago. I'm sure that if it wasn't, the citizens of the community would've done away with it long ere now.
    The fact that they are only now complaining tells me that it was once a useful and necessary policy, but that the community has now progressed beyond the need for it.

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

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    NOT funny Dan
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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Um, why should race have a factor in it at all? Yes it's racism, against just about every race it seems. It's horrible and wrong, and the policy should be removed.
    Probably, because 30 years ago, some white, Liberal do-gooder said that there weren't enough black kids being elected to the student council and it's racist not to skew the system, to allow more black kids to have the chance to serve on the student council.

    As far as racism being overcome? That'll never happen, as long as Liberalism exists.
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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    30 years ago, the South was still severely socially imbalanced because of the aftereffects of years of segregation and Jim Crow laws.
    It is not your place to say whether this policy was useful or needed 30 years ago. I'm sure that if it wasn't, the citizens of the community would've done away with it long ere now.
    The fact that they are only now complaining tells me that it was once a useful and necessary policy, but that the community has now progressed beyond the need for it.
    would you believe that there is still a building in the town where i live that still has a large plague that says "colored school" on it? the building is freshly painted regularly and that plague is still there and they paint around it.

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    whoa

    what ever happened to self modera...

    to self restraint?

    wow...

    just, wow

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Thats retarded.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    I also find it interesting that you didn't bother to actually read the article. President position alternated every other year, which means that your thread title is misleading as well as your lack of posting anything from the actual article itself.

    You just wanted to stir up the "Woe is me for I are Black" vitimhood **** again.

    Granted the policy is as dumb as a box of rocks, its hardly the evil "Keepin' the black man down" act that the OP is making it out to be.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by justonemorevoice View Post
    would you believe that there is still a building in the town where i live that still has a large plague that says "colored school" on it? the building is freshly painted regularly and that plague is still there and they paint around it.

    Wow. They ought to hire the painters from my apartment complex to paint it.
    Talk about thorough.
    Last time they painted the exterior of the complex, they not only painted my birdhouse, which is nailed to the railing of my porch, but also the birdseed bell that was hanging beside it.
    I figure if I'd been standing on the porch at the time, they probably would've painted me, too.

    In all seriousness, though, perhaps there's a reason they leave that sign there.
    Maybe they're trying to own their past, not sweep it under the rug like everybody else seems to want to do.
    If so, kudos to them. I mean, it's no longer a "colored school", correct?
    In a way, leaving the sign there, as a now-irrelevant anachronism, is sort of like owning the past while pointing to the progress they've made since then.

    Although definitely if the sign offends everybody or causes discord, it should be removed.
    I think people forget how recent this ugly past really was.
    Seeing reminders of it- relics which aren't even that old- is not necessarily a bad thing.
    It might even be vindicating to middle-aged people of color, who lived through it, and who must find it alienating to live among younger people who don't really believe it ever happened, and certainly not within living memory.
    Last edited by 1069; 08-28-10 at 03:51 PM.

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    Re: Want to be class president? Not if you're black, in one Miss. school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Wow. They ought to hire the painters from my apartment complex to paint it.
    Talk about thorough.
    Last time they painted the exterior of the complex, they not only painted my birdhouse, which is nailed to the railing of my porch, but also the birdseed bell that was hanging beside it.
    I figure if I'd been standing on the porch at the time, they probably would've painted me, too.

    In all seriousness, though, perhaps there's a reason they leave that sign there.
    Maybe they're trying to own their past, not sweep it under the rug like everybody else seems to want to do.
    If so, kudos to them. I mean, it's no longer a "colored school", correct?
    In a way, leaving the sign there, as a now-irrelevant anachronism, is sort of like owning the past while pointing to the progress they've made since then.

    Although definitely if the sign offends everybody or causes discord, it should be removed.
    I think people forget how recent this ugly past really was.
    Seeing reminders of it- relics which aren't even that old- is not necessarily a bad thing.
    It might even be vindicating to middle-aged people of color, who lived through it, and who must find it alienating to live among younger people who don't really believe it ever happened, and certainly not within living memory.
    i have no idea why they leave it there. its a meat packing plant now. i was shocked when i saw it. hang on, lemme see if i can find the picture i have of it...
    ok, its not a plague but its definately noticable:
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:0,s:0
    Last edited by justonemorevoice; 08-28-10 at 03:58 PM.

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