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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you've confused him with bush....no wait...bush was FOR torture AND indefinite incarceration. what a silly thread.
    I'm going to bet the "stay on topic" police don't jump down your throat. Just a guess.
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What does "technically speaking" mean here? Should he be released, or shouldn't he?
    If there is some evidence to at least take him to trial then it should be done.

    I'm not advocating letting terrorists out.

    But if there's 0 evidence and he's merely suspected, then yes he should be set free. Immediately.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So no innocent until proven guilty...

    Me and him aren't bleeding out our hearts.

    For me it's this: If you allow it to happen to one person, you can do it to many more.

    You always howel, Less government this, less government that, yet in your fear after 9/11 you let the government do whatever they wanted, illegal search and seizures, illegal wire tappings all in the name of Anti-Terrorism.

    Now almost a million people could have access to every single thing about you, including what Porno you enjoy.

    How long before this monstrosity of a government security operatus is turned against the people themselves? Do you think it couldn't happen?

    So less government.... when..... it's convenient for you to say so.



    Dying to hear this.



    They have the right to have justice served, not a show trial for political expediency.



    All mens rights are important, not just the ones you deem convenient at the time.
    You don't give enemy combatants, not wearing uniforms, not fighting for a country trials. You wait until the war is over to find out what to do with them.

    May they die in Gitmo of old age.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You don't give enemy combatants, not wearing uniforms, not fighting for a country trials. You wait until the war is over to find out what to do with them.

    May they die in Gitmo of old age.

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    So you're not concerned AT ALL that some of them may be innocent?

    Some have already been released innocent that were detained there FOR YEARS and that doesn't bother you in the slightest?

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If there is some evidence to at least take him to trial then it should be done.

    I'm not advocating letting terrorists out.

    But if there's 0 evidence and he's merely suspected, then yes he should be set free. Immediately.
    Let's say that we know that he's a terrorist, but there is no evidence that would be admissible in a civilian court. What do we do?

    We already know Obama's answer: "Detain him indefinitely."
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Does the Obama Admin have a plan? Do they have a clue here?
    Who's sh**ing who? Whatever Obama's plan is you won't agree with it because you are a self-confessed Obama hater.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Who's sh**ing who? Whatever Obama's plan is you won't agree with it because you are a self-confessed Obama hater.

    ricksfolly
    No, I'm not a self-confessed Obama Hater. Nice try. I'm a Conservative who is appalled by Obama's Actions, most of the time. However I've repeatedly stated I do not hate the man.

    Have a nice life living in lies bud.
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Speaking of trying terrorists........remember all the controversy over trying Khalid Sheik Muhammad in New York.

    What's the latest on that? It's been silent.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Speaking of trying terrorists........remember all the controversy over trying Khalid Sheik Muhammad in New York.

    What's the latest on that? It's been silent.
    Obviously out of concern that he wouldn't get a fair trial, they're waiting for the hubbub to die down, and will slip him in on the Night Court docket.
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Whatever dude, you're bleeding your heart for a man that helped plan the deaths of American's. I know that fact eludes your righteous outrage that he was "waterboarded", but it's scant consolation to the families of the dead.

    The real truth is, Obama and Co want to try him under Federal Law, and the methods to capture the guy don't meet those guidelines. There will be no trial for this man, we can't do it under the new system, and if we go ahead with the older guidelines people like you scream and cry about this scums rights.

    What about the rights of those he helped murder? Oh that's right, criminals and terrorist rights are more important to folks like you.
    See thats the problem, we all know he's the guy who did it. There is enough open source intelligence and evidence that any court of law would find him guilty, that should be used to the fullest. The problem comes from the evidence gathered while he was tortured and from evidence gathered by secret sources and methods. Traditionally for evidence to be considered it has to have a long history behind it, police officers have to take logs of exactly where and when it was found, and every single person who handled it, and where it was every moment of every day until its brought to trial. The problem with evidence gathered with secret methods, the sources and methods cannot be revealed for national security reasons, which I understand. But basically because the other members of the court are not capable of seeing how this evidence was gathered they have to trust information from a single source which they cannot verify.

    The real question is how much do we want to reveal, or do we want to reveal anything at all, during a trail and how will these trails, with secret evidence, be different than others?

    Torture isn't needed anywhere in here.

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