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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

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    Does the Obama Admin have a plan? Do they have a clue here?
    Obama will do anything he can to protect Arabs whether they be terrorists or not.............this is outrageous........
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

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    Does the Obama Admin have a plan? Do they have a clue here?
    They found out he was a Black Panther member, and seek to reunite him with his lost brethren.

    Holder calls us cowards. Can we say these people are ideological and incompetent? Too incompetent to be running the country and protecting us from enemies and invaders foreign and domestic?

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Obama will do anything he can to protect Arabs whether they be terrorists or not.............this is outrageous........
    He's not protecting them.

    He didn't release him Navy...

    They just can't convict him because evidence is thin atm.

    Or should we convict him in a phony trial... that sounds as American as Stalin.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

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    He's not protecting them.

    He didn't release him Navy...

    They just can't convict him because evidence is thin atm.

    Or should we convict him in a phony trial... that sounds as American as Stalin.
    No, Obama and Co. changed the rules, and are now realizing they shot themselves in the foot when it comes to these terror trials.
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, Obama and Co. changed the rules, and are now realizing they shot themselves in the foot when it comes to these terror trials.
    Yeah **** eh.

    Wouldn't want anyone to have an actual trial. That's un-amer... oh wait ****!

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yeah **** eh.

    Wouldn't want anyone to have an actual trial. That's un-amer... oh wait ****!
    That's a pointless post Jet. Facts are, Obama changed the rules of the game, and when they went to try this guy, and others, realized that they assed themselves out of a trial. You can rant on with silly hyperbole all you want, doesn't change the fact that Obama's people are realizing they cannot try some of the people in Gitmo because they negated the evidence against them. DOH!
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That's a pointless post Jet. Facts are, Obama changed the rules of the game, and when they went to try this guy, and others, realized that they assed themselves out of a trial. You can rant on with silly hyperbole all you want, doesn't change the fact that Obama's people are realizing they cannot try some of the people in Gitmo because they negated the evidence against them. DOH!
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    But you're way too stuck on proving how TOLERANT you are you are jumping to conclusions without evidence.
    Those are your words...

    If there was clear evidence... it wouldn't be a problem now would it?

    In case I forgot, we don't allow evidence obtained through torture methods into a court of law do we?

    And wait just a damned second... I thought it was innocent until proven guilty? Or are we just throwing that out the window too...

    I'm not terrorist sympathizer so don't go there. But I do believe all men, including these ones deserve a fair trial... and their case heard by a jury.

    But I shouldnt' forget this is all shrouded in politics, and we dare not give a suspected terrorist a trial because hey, they don't deserve one.

    The amount of people that turned out to be innocent at Gitmo should tell you that we need to start finding out who is and isn't and NOW!

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That's a pointless post Jet. Facts are, Obama changed the rules of the game, and when they went to try this guy, and others, realized that they assed themselves out of a trial. You can rant on with silly hyperbole all you want, doesn't change the fact that Obama's people are realizing they cannot try some of the people in Gitmo because they negated the evidence against them. DOH!
    They didn't actually change the rules, the rules have been changing since they first started this idea of a military trail. But one thing that has stayed pretty constant is the outlaw in these trails, and America in general, is that evidence by torture cannot be used.

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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Those are your words...

    If there was clear evidence... it wouldn't be a problem now would it?

    In case I forgot, we don't allow evidence obtained through torture methods into a court of law do we?

    And wait just a damned second... I thought it was innocent until proven guilty? Or are we just throwing that out the window too...

    I'm not terrorist sympathizer so don't go there. But I do believe all men, including these ones deserve a fair trial... and their case heard by a jury.

    But I shouldnt' forget this is all shrouded in politics, and we dare not give a suspected terrorist a trial because hey, they don't deserve one.

    The amount of people that turned out to be innocent at Gitmo should tell you that we need to start finding out who is and isn't and NOW!
    What are you blathering on about?

    They changed the rules of evidence. It's like this, imagine you and I were detectives mmkay? And ten years ago we bust a guy for murder. Our evidence was blood spots. Now we didn't have DNA sampling and the blood wasn't enough to get a DNA sample today.

    The guy goes for an appeal, only before his appeal, it's ruled that Blood Evidence without DNA is no longer admissible. DOH! Wed' have to scramble to figure out how to try the guy.

    That's pretty much what's going on here, only the rules were changed for political gain, and only now is it biting them on the ass.
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    Re: Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What are you blathering on about?

    They changed the rules of evidence. It's like this, imagine you and I were detectives mmkay? And ten years ago we bust a guy for murder. Our evidence was blood spots. Now we didn't have DNA sampling and the blood wasn't enough to get a DNA sample today.

    The guy goes for an appeal, only before his appeal, it's ruled that Blood Evidence without DNA is no longer admissible. DOH! Wed' have to scramble to figure out how to try the guy.

    That's pretty much what's going on here, only the rules were changed for political gain, and only now is it biting them on the ass.
    Except instead of blood samples we have evidence that was literally beaten out of the person. This is AMERICA damn it. We are better than this. We're supposed to be the good guys, don't ever under-estimate the power of the morale high ground. Putting the message out that the rules change, and your rights change, if we SUSPECT, as everyone is only suspect until proven guilty, you of being a terrorist, sends a bad sign to the world and goes against everything this country is supposed to stand for.

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