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Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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What? You mean it takes 60 votes to get anything passed in the Senate? That must have just changed because GW Bush destroyed this economy all by himself! He obviously didn't need the Democrat Congress support from January 2007 to the end of his term or the Democrat Controlled House in 2006 to the end of his tem.

absolutely

gov christie in new jersey is managing to get pretty much what he wants and trenton is pretty dark blue

it's called leadership

the secret is: first, you gotta win, and then, you gotta pick policies people actually, y'know, like
 
You don't have a problem with those Protesting the Arizona bill mischaracterizing what was in that bill with many of those protesters not even reading the bill? Protesting apparently is only a good thing when done by the left but when the right protests or points out the lies from the left it is called hate speech?

Hay, you proved my point, thanks, you blast opponents who are upset with the TP rally, and claiming "how dare they excercise their rights." BUT, if someone protests against a passion you have, they are lies, mischaracterizing, and they did not read a bill.

I never said protesting was bad, you just said it. It is okay, it is good, it is used to demonstrate dissatisfaction, incite, spead fear, spew hate, or celebrate. Hey, I wish everyone had rallies. I wish everyone got off their asses. Maybe, our politicians and pundits would be more careful if they knew that the people would demonstrate against their poor judgement.

I have no problem with Beck having a rally, none.
 
If I was black I would take offense by this political stunt.

People of EVERY color should be offended by this political stunt.
 
I have to remember many of these same TPer's blasted the protesters in AZ on 7-29, when they protested SB 1070. Leaving me to believe that when they want to protest it is okay for them to excerise their rights (which it is). BUT, if latinos or anglos want to protest they feel they are the scum of the earth.

nonsense, when (not if) latinos stood up in favor of enforcing the border in AZ americans of like mind were and are proud to stand beside em

it's all about health care, the border, the insensitivity of putting that church there...

ie, the issues

race is someone else's construct

i appreciate your civility and thoughtfulness
 
Hay, you proved my point, thanks, you blast opponents who are upset with the TP rally, and claiming "how dare they excercise their rights." BUT, if someone protests against a passion you have, they are lies, mischaracterizing, and they did not read a bill.

I never said protesting was bad, you just said it. It is okay, it is good, it is used to demonstrate dissatisfaction, incite, spead fear, spew hate, or celebrate. Hey, I wish everyone had rallies. I wish everyone got off their asses. Maybe, our politicians and pundits would be more careful if they knew that the people would demonstrate against their poor judgement.

I have no problem with Beck having a rally, none.

I have no problem with people protesting regardless of the issue. My concern however is that many appear to not even know what was in the Arizona Bill. I don't recall blasting anything other than ignorance.

As for the Beck rally, I was hoping someone here could point to the Fox Channel that was carrying that rally as I cannot seem to find it on my TV. I keep hearing over and over again that Fox News is a shill for the Republican Party yet I have gone through every channel on my TV and haven't found Fox covering the rally? It must be my local TV provider that is blacking that out for me. Fox News has their normal business programming this morning, the Business Bloc during the rally hours. How can that be?
 
She's against repealing DADT which is discrminatory.

She's against same sex marriage which is discriminatory.

She attempted to amend the state constitution to deny same sex couples state benefits. Which is discrminiatory.

Really, being against repealing Don't Ask, don't tell is discriminatory? Is sexual orientation a civil right? And if so where in the U.S. Constitution?

Against same sex marriage? Again where is sexual orientation in the Constitution or better yet were is marriage in the Constitution. Every American has the same rights when it comes to marriage, marry anyone of the opposite sex that will have you. I see no discrimination there.

Where is the proof that she wants to deny civil unions? Again, I would love someone to show me the Constitution where marriage and sexual orientation is defined. Guess I missed that in my civics class.
 
the man who is SUING the PEOPLE OF ARIZONA told house judiciary he never read brewer's bill

Holder hasn't read Arizona law he criticized - Washington Times

dhs told ex maverick mccain the same thing

YouTube - Homeland Security Sec. Napolitano has not read the Arizona Law and......

remember ms brewer's ad---hilarious!

Hot Air » New Brewer ad: The fundamentals

max baucus, the gatekeeper himself, confessed this monday he never read obamacare which he is "credited" with writing

Max Baucus, author of Obamacare, admits he never read his own bill | Washington Examiner

oh, well, washington knows best

(til november)
 
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Since apparently you are in Arizona tell us what was discriminatory in the Arizona bill? You seem to have a different definition of civil rights than I do. I don't happen to believe that violating the law by being here illegally gives anyone a right to anything other than deportation or jail.

Again you assume that I feel the bill was discriminatory, never said that.

It was needed because the feds did nothing, and still do nothing, and when I say the feds, I say both dems and GOP.

I do think that if a bigot was not the person who sponsored the bill (pearce), and if a bigoted sheriff was kept out to the picture, and the facts where shown about how the az sector of the border is being over ran daily with drug and human smuggling even dems would have sponsored the bill. Did you know the AZ sector only has 3 k officers to enforce immigration and customs. I think the AZ sector had a 100k incidents, yet they only have a few hundred more officers than the NM who had 50k incidents, and a couple hundred more than the California and Tx sector, who have only 60 to 70 percent of the incidents.
 
your imagery is half the time grotesque and more often than that adolescent

grow up

Eh what can I say, the guy is supposed to be a history teacher, says he had "no idea" that MLK did his speech at the Lincoln memorial on the same day, and a few days later has King's niece backing him up. I would say that takes a lot of balls to be that disingenious wouldn't you say?

Yeah, yeah, we get it, anyone associated with the rally today gets smeared. How tolerant of you. So as it is described the rally is non political, and non partisan, so whats wrong with that?

I've seen bits and pieces of the speeches, still trying to figure out the point of the rally I guess we will see in the next day or so but had it been bi-partisan and non political then why couldn't they have done this at a county fair or oh I dunno, without a bunch of tea party soldiers?

I disagree. First there is a presumption that all conservatives love Beck. So, why would libs love him? The man is an entertainer, he does what he does to make $$$, nothing more or less.

I keep hearing this entertainer bit, if he were an entertainer I think he would oh I dunno, say something entertaining and not try to tell people how they should be thinking wouldn't you say?
 
I have no problem with people protesting regardless of the issue. My concern however is that many appear to not even know what was in the Arizona Bill. I don't recall blasting anything other than ignorance.

As for the Beck rally, I was hoping someone here could point to the Fox Channel that was carrying that rally as I cannot seem to find it on my TV. I keep hearing over and over again that Fox News is a shill for the Republican Party yet I have gone through every channel on my TV and haven't found Fox covering the rally? It must be my local TV provider that is blacking that out for me. Fox News has their normal business programming this morning, the Business Bloc during the rally hours. How can that be?

I agree. To be well rounded, one must be given all points to ponder. If a media agency claims they are inpartial, then broadcast and let me make my judgements.
 
my wiser friend above makes an excellent point:

fox is NOT covering this rally

cspan IS

all those wingnuts, once again---brian, susan, pedro, peter, greta...

if it's a tin foil hat that made mr lamb what he is more moderators should wear one
 
Do you have a problem with the concept of "Restoring Honor to America?"

1. Honor was restored to America when we got rid of the Bush/Cheney/et al war-mongers.

2. How, exactly, is Glenn Beck (who'll be stroking his ego and filling his pockets on the anniversary of MLK's most memorable and influential speech, at the same place MLK gave that speech) going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.

(This should be good. :popcorn2: )

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

MLK would be mortified by the content of this particular rodeo-clown's character.
 
Still not sure what I think of this rally but I thought it was funny while the gospel singer was on people were either waving or clapping out of sync with each other, or just standing there with their arms crossed with a confused look on their face.
 
How interesting, Dr. Martin Luther King's niece, Alveda King is a Senior Fellow at the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, a conservative think tank that is funded by none other than the Koch Family Foundation. Coincidence? I think not.

Btw, Alveda King has little in common with her uncle MLK other than his last name. MLK was for equality for people of all races, ethnicity and gender. Alveda is anti-homosexual and doesn't think homosexuals deserve civil rights. She is also against a woman's rights to choose, even though she herself had two abortions. That puts her in direct opposition to Coretta King, MLK's deceased wife who was a LGTB and women's right activist. Alveda also claims MLK would be a Republican if he were alive today. But the fact of the matter is, MLK didn't endorse any political party because that would have undermined his global message of equality for all people.

Soooo, it looks to me like Alveda King is going to make an attempt to rewrite MLK's history and legacy at this falldeerall Beck rally tomorrow. And she's going to get paid by the Koch's to do it. So this should be very interestink. Yes, indeedy.

She holds a PhD I believe, I could be wrong, however, your bona fides are?


j-mac

Look up. There's your sign.
 
1. Honor was restored to America when we got rid of the Bush/Cheney/et al war-mongers.

2. How, exactly, is Glenn Beck (who'll be stroking his ego and filling his pockets on the anniversary of MLK's most memorable and influential speech, at the same place MLK gave that speech) going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.

(This should be good. :popcorn2: )



MLK would be mortified by the content of this particular rodeo-clown's character.

LOL, nothing non partisan about your post as well as nothing accurate as actual facts prove. Don't blame you from diverting to the Bush/Cheney Adminstration as the current Administration is a failure, complete and utter. Facts will never get in the way of your personal opinion. Noticed that you never offer any facts to back up your claim. That war mongering President got a resolution through a Democrat controlled Senate on a vote that I believe was 76-23. then of course he had a Democrat controlled Congress from 2007-2008 which of course apparently you believe had no power.

Your opinion regarding what MLK would think of this rally is just that, an opinion. Mine differs in that I believe the man would be proud of all those Americans showing up on the site where he gave his famous speech and showed their love and respect for the country. Hope, Faith, and Charity is being promoted and isn't that what MLK was all about? Wasn't he also about "Restoring Honor?"

I believe your hatred for GW Bush is clouding your judgment.

By the way, I don't see a lot of liberals here posting on the rally in D.C. so apparently Beck is doing something right. I assure you if it was negative they would be all over the blogs this morning. What is it, no signs? No political rhetoric? No protestors? No Rowdy behavior? How can that be?
 
Wow and Alveda King is ridiculous. So far what I gather this thing is about these people think we don't honor the troops (which we do), and apparently keeping gays from marrying, and putting prayer back in school. I dunno, it doesn't seem to have one focal point.
 
Eh what can I say, the guy is supposed to be a history teacher, says he had "no idea" that MLK did his speech at the Lincoln memorial on the same day, and a few days later has King's niece backing him up. I would say that takes a lot of balls to be that disingenious wouldn't you say?

Yes, I most certainly would.
 
1. Honor was restored to America when we got rid of the Bush/Cheney/et al war-mongers.
Did we get rid of Congress at the same time? Because if we did, I must have missed that.

2. How, exactly, is Glenn Beck (who'll be stroking his ego and filling his pockets on the anniversary of MLK's most memorable and influential speech, at the same place MLK gave that speech) going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.
Glenn Beck isn't making a dollar off this rally. Money that was donated by individuals funded this. Anything that was left over went directly to the Special Operations Warriors Fund. Beck never even touched the donations at all.

MLK would be mortified by the content of this particular rodeo-clown's character.

You know this for a fact? What reasonable person in their right mind would have an issue with paying tribute to our troops?

From Beck's own website:
EVENT DESCRIPTION

Throughout history America has seen many great leaders and noteworthy citizens change her course. It is through their personal virtues and by their example that we are able to live as a free people. On August 28, come celebrate America by honoring our heroes, our heritage and our future.

Join the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and many more for this non-political event that pays tribute to America’s service personnel and other upstanding citizens who embody our nation’s founding principles of integrity, truth and honor.

Our freedom is possible only if we remain virtuous. Help us restore the values that founded this great nation. On August, 28th, come join us in our pledge to restore honor at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC.

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10

Face it folks, those who are so opposed to this event don't even have an idea what it is even all about. They get their "news" from places like Huffington Post, Media Matters and other left-wing "media". It's OK to dislike Beck, but to lie about what this rally is all about is either intellectually dishonest or void of all reason and logic.
 
LOL, aw, the horror of it all! yep, real hate speech! Imagine that, a WOMAN talking about equality!

For some reason, Sarah Palin reminds me of Jane Fonda during the Vietnam war. Only less intelligent.
 
For some reason, Sarah Palin reminds me of Jane Fonda during the Vietnam war. Only less intelligent.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion as am I. Sarah Palin was Governor of Alaska, Jane Fonda made a work out video. Enough said.
 
This Beckian rally is like the TV show Seinfeld. It's about nothing.

No one knows what the hells it's about -- "Restoring Honor"... what the hell does that even mean.

A sick joke being played on the rubes too caught up in the talking point mentality to see what's going on.
 
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion as am I. Sarah Palin was Governor of Alaska, Jane Fonda made a work out video. Enough said.

Skim much? She was Hanoi Jane.
 
Watching this on CNN the only black face I saw was the CNN reporter.
 
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