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Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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Barbbtx said:
Fake crying.....You don't think it's possible for a grown man to cry real tears? I don't think they are fake.
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This is pretty obviously fake. Heck, listen to his voice, its bad acting.

Barbbtx said:
Doom room...enlighten me please
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Barbbtx said:
9/12 project, I don't recall him saying it wasn't or never would be political. I believe he started it but it is now in the hands of the American people. I'm not a member. You may be right...or not.
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The 9/12 Project | Facebook

"This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created."
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Barbbtx said:
I knew I should have mentioned the Vicks. That was used for a staged photo shoot. He can't cry on cue.
To me , that shows his tears are real.
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I see. His tears are real because he can't cry on cue, so he has to use Vicks Vapo Rub in order to cry, but it is all real.

Got it. Jeez. LOL.

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megaprogman said:


This is pretty obviously fake. Heck, listen to his voice, its bad acting.






Name:The 9/12 ProjectCategory:Common Interest - Beliefs & CausesDescription:Glenn Beck has started a project called the 9/12 project.

"This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created."

We need to unite on principles and values. We will always disagree on policies and candidates but it's our principles and values that unite America.

Unite with me?

The 9 principles are:

1. America Is Good.
2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.
3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.
5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.
6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.
7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.
8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.
9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.

The 12 values are:

* Honesty
* Reverence
* Hope
* Thrift
* Humility
* Charity
* Sincerity
* Moderation
* Hard Work
* Courage
* Personal Responsibility
* Gratitude
The 9/12 Project | Facebook
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Sorry I can't watch/listen to video on this POS PC.
The 9/12 project looks non political to me. No party affiliation.
 
Barbbtx said:
I knew I should have mentioned the Vicks. That was used for a staged photo shoot. He can't cry on cue.
To me , that shows his tears are real.
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Only those that can't refute a person would attack them on other than their positions. :shrug:
 
Crunch said:
Only those that can't refute a person would attack them on other than their positions. :shrug:
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Actually, they attack him because he was caught in the act. LOL.
 
Barbbtx said:
Sorry I can't watch/listen to video on this POS PC.
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If you log onto a better PC, feel free to take a look.

Barbbtx said:
The 9/12 project looks non political to me. No party affiliation.
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Lack of association with a party does not mean it is nonpolitical as it addresses political issues and philosophies, even in those value statements. At least thats the stick I measure by. For example, I consider PETA to be highly political, even though they are not attached to a particular party. The key is that they lobby, rally, and do other activities motivated by public policy and laws.
 
danarhea said:
I see. His tears are real because he can't cry on cue, so he has to use Vicks Vapo Rub in order to cry, but it is all real.

Got it. Jeez. LOL.

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Well, yes
It was for a photo shoot where he wanted to "look" like he was crying so he had to use Vicks. He can't just tear up whenever he wants.
Are you saying everytime he cries he sneaks a little vicks? Or are you willing to admit that they may be real tears and emotions for our country?
Why would he have ever needed to use Vicks if he can just cry whenever he feels like it?
 
megaprogman said:
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Lack of association with a party does not mean it is nonpolitical as it addresses political issues and philosophies, even in those value statements. At least thats the stick I measure by. For example, I consider PETA to be highly political, even though they are not attached to a particular party. The key is that they lobby, rally, and do other activities motivated by public policy and laws.
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I'll log on to a better computer and broad band as soon as Obama sends me my check.

So you want to call the 9/12 project political, fine. Better run and tell Media Matters Glenn Beck lied again.
Yea, PETA lobbies alright. How that scum is still tax exempt is beyond me.
 
Barbbtx said:
So you want to call the 9/12 project political, fine. Better run and tell Media Matters Glenn Beck lied again.
Yea, PETA lobbies alright. How that scum is still tax exempt is beyond me.
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So, in terms of political activities that both orgs engage in, do you think there is a difference? Ignoring the obvious political differences of course.
 
If a terrorist plane were to crash into the National Mall, that would be a tragedy.

However, when I think of that giant, idiot turd, Glenn Beck, standing in front of Lincoln, one thought goes through my head: 'We could rebuild that memorial a lot faster than the WTC. Probably have it up by next summer.'

Shame on anyone who goes to this event.
 
Barbbtx said:
Well, yes
It was for a photo shoot where he wanted to "look" like he was crying so he had to use Vicks. He can't just tear up whenever he wants.
Are you saying everytime he cries he sneaks a little vicks? Or are you willing to admit that they may be real tears and emotions for our country?
Why would he have ever needed to use Vicks if he can just cry whenever he feels like it?
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Beck is crying all the way to the bank....
 
The Giant Noodle said:
I just love this. On one hand you have the people that actually believe that Palin and Beck have answers and are doing something Positive for America. On the other hand you have the folks that feel those 2 dont have the answers and we should vote against both for liberals.
And here I am looking at BOTH sides and depressed because America is going down the tubes. There is no 3rd Party. (Tea Party is Republican and dont let anyone tell you anything different)

What the repubs did was genius. They make it LOOK like people are making a change with the Tea Party but all they are doing is putting in another republican. :slapme:
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Honestly it is kind of depressing. Glenn Beck, his followers, and his opponents are all bowing at the alter of Establishment while fancying themselves independent and critical. Most people don't understand the idea of controlled opposition where a seemingly anti-establishment agenda is actually just a ruse of the establishment or a faction therein to give legitimacy to their power.

On a side note Rand Paul really is a major change, but he is pretty much the only one. He just knows how to ride the wave of tea party activism to power. I think Sarah Palin's support for Paul goes to why the media went after her in 2008. She has consistently shown a habit of independence, which is inconvenient.
 
hazlnut said:
If a terrorist plane were to crash into the National Mall, that would be a tragedy.

However, when I think of that giant, idiot turd, Glenn Beck, standing in front of Lincoln, one thought goes through my head: 'We could rebuild that memorial a lot faster than the WTC. Probably have it up by next summer.'

Shame on anyone who goes to this event.
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Thats one big bottle of hateraide you are drinking there Hazl.

What specific things he is doing at that event that you find so distasteful?

That he believes in God?

That he is refusing to allow people to bring signs?

That its free?

That he is refusing to allow Palin to say anything political?

That he's going to honor MLK?

That he's planning on honoring some of America's heroes?


What specifically do you have a problem with the event itself or do you just hate Beck that much you don't care what actually is scheduled?
 
Barbbtx said:
You scared of something? What if he is (he's not) doing it for the money. Anything wrong with being successful? Why do you desire to stop an American from making a good living? Is he picking your pocket somehow?
What's it your concern if people want to circle a douche?
Do you complain when they circle Jon Stewart or Chris Mathews? They are douches in my opinion but anyone is welcome to circle them. I wouldn't waste a wish on getting them to stop.
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What would I be scared of?

I, usually, don't bother with these "listen to my douche nozzle" celebrity political tv personalities threads but since this keeps being a reoccurring topic, I have to interject.

Beck is a showman, he does this for money.
His show is filled with hyperbolic nonsense, mostly an appeal to ignorant people.
I can't stand to see this man taken as seriously, as he is.

If I were a conservative, I would be embarrassed by people using this man as a moniker of conservative thought.
 
Thread: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

It will?

The rally will be a measure of Beck's personality and his ability to persuade and a measure of people's ability and willingness to support him and his particular agendas.

The measure of the Tea Party will be only shown at the ballot box in November.

Also, will the Washington Post be telling us on Monday that the Tea Party is going gang-busters if Beck draws a million people to Washington? I don't think it would.
 
Jetboogieman said:
There's no way you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that democratics strategy is to make sure people stay poor and downtrodden.
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If that's not their goal, then they're damn stupid because that's what they're doing.

So, it seems like, either way, we'll be better off with fewer Democrats in office.
 
Your Star said:
One question, how does receiving welfare keep you downtrodden?
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It rewards your dependency with more stolen money.

It encourages the false beleive that being useless entitles you to a free living.

It allows the useless to look to others to blame for their situation and discourages them from looking to their own flaws.

How could that NOT act to keep people down, when they're rewarded for not trying?
 
megaprogman said:
Suggesting that liberals support welfare to just get votes is ... offensive and shows a gross misunderstanding of our principals.
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No.

Your principals are, among others, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Harry Reid, the Clintons, and others whose sole reason for existence is bilking money and votes from the gullible.

Those people don't have any principles, and naturally peole who follow them as a principal can't have any principles either.
 
Your Star said:
It's not really dependency, but a saving grace.
Does that chart count for inflation, and cost of living increases? It's reasonable for welfare spending to increase when cost of living increases.
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Is it?

Isn't it MORE reasonable to expect that when the economy improves, when the unemploymentn rate declines, as hiring is expanded, that the welfare burden to the public would decline immediately and proportionately?

Where are the corresponding declines in welfare expenditures to mirror expansions in the economy?

They don't exist.

Also, welfare spending, using your argument, shouldn't increase faster than the inflation rate, which has been reasonably flat since Reagan.
 
Your Star said:
Cost of living increases, increase in population, increase in program overhead.
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Inflation has been low for decades.

The increase in the population has been driven by the Invasion from Mexico, which has had the dual wrong effects of increasing the criminal burden on the welfare system and taken jobs away from those legitimately on the welfare system who might actually want to work.

There's no reason program overhead should increase any faster than the inflation rate.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Beck does this **** for the money, he just happened to hop on the bandwagon to increase his visibility and marketing strength.

I wish people would stop circling around hyperbolic, disingenuous douches.
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You mean like a man who keeps blaming everything he does wrong on George Bush?
 
megaprogman said:
So, in terms of political activities that both orgs engage in, do you think there is a difference? Ignoring the obvious political differences of course.
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The 9/12 project seems more like a church.
 
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