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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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    Never ran a business, I see. Why would any business hire anyone with the uncertainty that they are facing in January 2011? People face those same uncertainties and those that are working are spending less in anticipation of higher taxes in 2011. your empty suit isn't helping matters any and like all liberals you have no solutions.
    Liberal solution is throw more money at. CBO said the Bush tax cuts should stay to help the economy.

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    Just look at evil Glenn Beck and his radical followers spewing racism at the Kennedy Center.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...-radicals.html

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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    The results I am talking about come from BEA.gov which show declining economic growth, BLS.gov which show almost 16 million unemployed Americans and lost employment every month of 2010 and that is after spending a trillion dollars on the stimulus and Bush is no where to be seen, and the U.S. Treasury site which shows 3 trillion added to the debt in less than 2 years.
    Why? Why was 3T added to the debt in less than 2 years. What were the policies and events that lead to that... I seem to remember something about some tax cuts for the rich and super-righ that were going to fix everything... That's right, flood an unregulated derivatives and mortgage back securities market with billions, and what could go wrong.

    EVERY report/study/expert says the damage was done by 2005. It was a ticking time-bomb goose egg laid by W.

    The bailout, the auto-bailout... what were the alternatives?? We were screwed but Cheney/Bush policies. Put a million people out of work in the detroit area? Even conservative economists know you can't do that. Let AIG fail? I think even you know that wasn't an option.

    W. handed President Obama a mess, 2 wars unpaid for, an economy in shambles, no matter how much your masters at Fox News try to rewrite history, can't change what's already on the books.

    And what I know for Goddamned sure, Beck's fear-mongering and race-baiting, getting the Teabrains rock-hard about gettin' Blackie out of office isn't the solution. Tomorrow is a exercise in ginning up the GOP Obama-hating base.

    The solution is pragmatic cool heads, Reps and Dems working together. But the fringe-right won't have it. Can't stand the new color in the White House.

    The Teabrains, Beck, and Palin make me sick. Un-American, un-patriotic morons appealing to the lowest common denominator, fear.

    Now you can continue to deny and place the blame on Beck and Fox News but it is the results that matter, not rhetoric.
    Call 'em like I see 'em.

    Economists look at 10 year, 20 year policies and results. Idiot pundits grade Presidents day-to-day. Which one are you?

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    Quote Originally Posted by goldengirl View Post
    Liberal solution is throw more money at. CBO said the Bush tax cuts should stay to help the economy.
    Thanks, but the CBO numbers only matter to a liberal when they think it supports their point of view. Everyone knows that people keeping more of their own money makes them less dependent on the govt. and liberals don't want that

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    Obama's stimulus cost more than the entire cost of the Iraq War.
    Alternative to auto bail out was to let them fail. Do you think if they failed, no one would ever make another auto in the US??? Let me know the next time you own a private non-union business that gets bailed out you're in trouble.

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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    Thanks, but the CBO numbers only matter to a liberal when they think it supports their point of view. Everyone knows that people keeping more of their own money makes them less dependent on the govt. and liberals don't want that
    According the CBO - old people need to die faster... I mean, if you really read the numbers.

    How many of the senior citizen Teabrains want to talk about those issues?

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    hazlnut;1058947745]Why? Why was 3T added to the debt in less than 2 years. What were the policies and events that lead to that... I seem to remember something about some tax cuts for the rich and super-righ that were going to fix everything... That's right, flood an unregulated derivatives and mortgage back securities market with billions, and what could go wrong.
    Oh, I don't know, maybe the buyout of GM/Chrysler, 862 billion stimulus and anti business attitude that led to record unemployment had some affect. As for the TARP money, hasn't most of that been paid back?

    EVERY report/study/expert says the damage was done by 2005. It was a ticking time-bomb goose egg laid by W.
    Back your statement up with actual data, not your opinion which we are now seeing what that is worth.

    The bailout, the auto-bailout... what were the alternatives?? We were screwed but Cheney/Bush policies. Put a million people out of work in the detroit area? Even conservative economists know you can't do that. Let AIG fail? I think even you know that wasn't an option.
    Yep, that is and was the only option, throwing money at the problem is all liberals do. TARP has been paid back but didn't go to repay the debt, that is what liberals always do and you apparently support. Again show me the numbers and stop with the opinions.

    W. handed President Obama a mess, 2 wars unpaid for, an economy in shambles, no matter how much your masters at Fox News try to rewrite history, can't change what's already on the books.
    Spoken like a true liberal, show me the numbers and stop with the opinions. None of those have anything to do with the deficit which apparently you don't understand. Obama could stop the war any time he wanted to but hasn't, Deficits are yearly and not cumulative, that would be the debt.

    And what I know for Goddamned sure, Beck's fear-mongering and race-baiting, getting the Teabrains rock-hard about gettin' Blackie out of office isn't the solution. Tomorrow is a exercise in ginning up the GOP Obama-hating base.
    You are great at explosive rhetoric that is backed by nothing other than hot air. Facts matter, get them and you would have more credibility. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury are all non partisan and have data, educate yourself for a change.

    The solution is pragmatic cool heads, Reps and Dems working together. But the fringe-right won't have it. Can't stand the new color in the White House.
    Yep, anytime the results don't match the rhetoric resort to race baiting. No one is ever going to work with this narcissist, spoiled man child or Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

    The Teabrains, Beck, and Palin make me sick. Un-American, un-patriotic morons appealing to the lowest common denominator, fear.
    LOL, I will tell them the next time I see them. I am sure they will lose sleep over your feelings. I know that I sure will. I would worry about the uneducated base that supports Obama and is dependent on the taxpayers for their own existence. 47% of workers in this country pay no income taxes and thus don't seem to care what others pay. These are the people that form today's Democrat base and are the ignorant ones that blame everything on someone else as they buy the rhetoric of our empty suit President.



    Call 'em like I see 'em.

    Economists look at 10 year, 20 year policies and results. Idiot pundits grade Presidents day-to-day. Which one are you?

    I can see that, problem is people who cannot see shouldn't be calling anything.

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    According the CBO - old people need to die faster... I mean, if you really read the numbers.

    How many of the senior citizen Teabrains want to talk about those issues?
    What? CBO has said nothing about people dying or the need for them to die quicker. I don't think you have a clue.

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I seem to remember something about some tax cuts for the rich and super-righ that were going to fix everything...
    from our masters at wapo:

    "With the economy rapidly weakening, some senior Democrats are having second thoughts about raising taxes on the nation's wealthiest families and are pressing party leaders to consider extending the full array of Bush administration tax cuts, at least through next year."

    washingtonpost.com

    And what I know for Goddamned sure, Beck's fear-mongering and race-baiting, getting the Teabrains rock-hard about gettin' Blackie out of office isn't the solution. Tomorrow is a exercise in ginning up the GOP Obama-hating base.

    The solution is pragmatic cool heads, Reps and Dems working together. But the fringe-right won't have it. Can't stand the new color in the White House.

    The Teabrains, Beck, and Palin make me sick. Un-American, un-patriotic morons appealing to the lowest common denominator, fear.
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    Re: Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

    Quote Originally Posted by goldengirl View Post
    Obama's stimulus cost more than the entire cost of the Iraq War.
    Alternative to auto bail out was to let them fail. Do you think if they failed, no one would ever make another auto in the US??? Let me know the next time you own a private non-union business that gets bailed out you're in trouble.
    Again, even conservative economists acknowledge the basic econ formula--when you put a 1 million people out of work in a metropolitan area like detroit, the resulting poverty and crime is more expensive then a managed bankruptcy--which is what the auto-bailouts were.

    Now, they don't talk about that on Fox much, but that's how it works. When something breaks because you didn't care for it properly, then you cringe and pay the money to get it fixed. Toyota, Ford, and others invested in smaller cars and green tech cars... while GM kept building boats that didn't even work.

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