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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how much additional tax revenue will make up for all the obama reckless spending and how do you dems propose getting that revenue?

    if taxes are to be raised they need to be raised on those who aren't paying enough (and hence continue to vote for the spending)
    Anytime the government spends without funding it is a tax. In this case the tax bill is coming (in part) ten years after the spending; quit whining and pay the friggen bill.
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I will keep that in mind when the Libs whine that the Bush Tax cuts did nothing to help the economy
    Which is fine provided you also state that the Bush Tax cuts did increase the deficit.

    Any and all government stimulus that requires government borrowing will reduce FUTURE economic growth in order to stimulate current economic growth. Bush engaged in Keynsian economic stimulus, so did Reagan and so has Obama
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Raising taxes doesn't mean it will increase government revenues, nor does it mean that any money raised will be spent wisely. If the past is any indication, it won't.

    If raising taxes now is a good idea then raising them to 100% must be a great idea.

    The Democrats borrowed billions from the Chinese and a few hours later they were hungry for billions more. They should continue to borrow money from the Chinese, spend it just as crazily as they've been doing, and then print a few tons of the stuff to pay them back. It will certainly teach those Commies a lesson or two about capitalism.
    Where have you been for the last few years? Under a rock, eating magic mushrooms?

    Chinese holdings of US governmenmt debt skyrocketed under Bush and the Rebupilcans
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you not read posts on this board-does the obvious escape you.

    tax cuts COST NOTHING

    a fundamental concept that is obvious to anyone who has a brain
    That is almost as idiotic as stating getting a massage increases your wealth

    A tax cut without corresponding spending cuts, does not mean you have a cut in expenses. The spending still has to be accounted for. Just because it was put on the credit card does not mean it does not have to be paid back
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Anytime the government spends without funding it is a tax. In this case the tax bill is coming (in part) ten years after the spending; quit whining and pay the friggen bill.
    uh I suspect I pay far more than you do-maybe its time you start paying as much as I do because chances are you use as much or more than I do
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    That is almost as idiotic as stating getting a massage increases your wealth

    A tax cut without corresponding spending cuts, does not mean you have a cut in expenses. The spending still has to be accounted for. Just because it was put on the credit card does not mean it does not have to be paid back
    so you are saying tax cuts are spending so anything less than a 100% tax is spending by the government or only when tax hikes bring in less revenue?

    is saving your own money a cost?
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are saying tax cuts are spending so anything less than a 100% tax is spending by the government or only when tax hikes bring in less revenue?

    is saving your own money a cost?
    Did you not see the part about corresponding spending cuts?

    A tax cut without a spending cut is basically a defered tax. All government deficits have to be paid by taxes eventually
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Did you not see the part about corresponding spending cuts?

    A tax cut without a spending cut is basically a defered tax. All government deficits have to be paid by taxes eventually
    do you think the dems are serious about cutting spending? one of the major reasons why I oppose the dem scheme to only hike taxes on those who already pay too much of the taxes is that it leads those not facing tax hikes to continue to demand more spending since they don't have to pay for it (at least not now)
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh I suspect I pay far more than you do-maybe its time you start paying as much as I do because chances are you use as much or more than I do
    Consider the defense spending by the previous administration as a preemptive measure for any malcontents bent on stealing your trust fund.
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    Re: Stimulus Boosted Jobs in 2nd Quarter, CBO Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you think the dems are serious about cutting spending? one of the major reasons why I oppose the dem scheme to only hike taxes on those who already pay too much of the taxes is that it leads those not facing tax hikes to continue to demand more spending since they don't have to pay for it (at least not now)
    Gee the democrats are the one with a spending problem, I guess I should ignore what the Rebuplicans have done eh
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