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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    I really can't for the life of me figure out how this wouldn't be the same as assigning kids the task of -- hypothetically -- planning to shoot up a school. Any argument you want to put in favor of this teacher's assignment would apply equally well to that.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I really can't for the life of me figure out how this wouldn't be the same as assigning kids the task of -- hypothetically -- planning to shoot up a school. Any argument you want to put in favor of this teacher's assignment would apply equally well to that.
    because, it's possible for a kid to shoot up a school, i'm yet to meet any 15 year old that's built a chemical or nuclear weapon, i mean, i didn't make thermite 'till i was 17.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Well, my daughter is about the same age as those high-school students and I've been trying to think about what my reaction would be if she came home with such an assignment. I guess it would depend on how the assignment was worded and what the follow up discussion to it would be. I think the teacher in the article used the wrong language in the assignment and she didn't make it clear enough if there would be a discussion about the impact the fictional attack would have on the people who survived it, their families and the country as a whole. I also agree with the poster who said that the assignment should have been a two-parter covering both the terrorist attack and the best ways to prevent it.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Well, my daughter is about the same age as those high-school students and I've been trying to think about what my reaction would be if she came home with such an assignment. I guess it would depend on how the assignment was worded and what the follow up discussion to it would be. I think the teacher in the article used the wrong language in the assignment and she didn't make it clear enough if there would be a discussion about the impact the fictional attack would have on the people who survived it, their families and the country as a whole. I also agree with the poster who said that the assignment should have been a two-parter covering both the terrorist attack and the best ways to prevent it.
    I think it encourages strategic thinking and careful planning.
    Sometimes you have to come up with crazy off the wall stuff to get youngsters interested.
    This is definitely it.

    The prevention aspect isn't a bad idea.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    (I've snipped at various points.)

    This assignment was insensitive, stupid, unprofessional and a host of other derogatory adjectives one could come up with. My examples are no different. Hypothetical terrorist attack=hypothetical rape attack=hypothetical bombing attack="pretend you're a murderer." Just plai ridiculous.
    Your examples are completely different. First of all, they zero in on specific, personal atrocities, one invokes psychosexual trauma, and the other gives a direct target.

    I bet if it were put in the context of an ROTC class doing something similar to impress the impact on them, you wouldn't be having mouthfoaming fits over an instructor trying to creatively engage that class.

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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think it encourages strategic thinking and careful planning.
    Sometimes you have to come up with crazy off the wall stuff to get youngsters interested.
    This is definitely it.

    The prevention aspect isn't a bad idea.
    Yeah, it does take a lot to get young people to care about anything these days, but I think it's important to keep their focus on the fact that terrorism is very destructive or they'll simply treat this exercise as another make-believe video game.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Your examples are completely different. First of all, they zero in on specific, personal atrocities, one invokes psychosexual trauma, and the other gives a direct target.

    I bet if it were put in the context of an ROTC class doing something similar to impress the impact on them, you wouldn't be having mouthfoaming fits over an instructor trying to creatively engage that class.
    Not quite mouth-foaming, Jallman, though I do enjoy the comparison. I do see similarities in my examples. I understand that you don't. But that's why we have DP. If this assignment were meant to "impress the impact on civilians," I wouldn't have posted in opposition. The article doesn't frame it in that manner -- and neither did the teacher.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Yeah, it does take a lot to get young people to care about anything these days, but I think it's important to keep their focus on the fact that terrorism is very destructive or they'll simply treat this exercise as another make-believe video game.
    Of course, completely agree.
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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I really can't for the life of me figure out how this wouldn't be the same as assigning kids the task of -- hypothetically -- planning to shoot up a school. Any argument you want to put in favor of this teacher's assignment would apply equally well to that.
    That doesn't change anything. The kids who shoot 10 or 15 people at their schools do not need lessons to learn how to do that.

    What this teacher does is to encourage his students to think, to imagine something, it is very creative. He is a good teacher, even if the subject is not a good one. When I was at school, I had to do boring things like finding an article in a newspaper and translate it, or I had to read some boring book. There was nothing creative.

    Furthermore, it's by encouraging people to think about how things work than they can react well when this thing happens.

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    Re: G'day class, today we're going to plot a terrorist attack in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Yeah, it does take a lot to get young people to care about anything these days, but I think it's important to keep their focus on the fact that terrorism is very destructive or they'll simply treat this exercise as another make-believe video game.
    I would tend to think that would be great for followup lessons. Have kids plan a terrorist attack, then show them a movie with footage of 9/11 and the aftermath of attacks.
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