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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is right on the heels of the egg recall, which begs the question: Do we continue with business as usual, or do we need more robust regulation when it comes to the processing of foods? Note that in both cases the companies have voluntarily pulled the product without the government ordering them to.

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    What, Gov't Regulation and Control isn't perfect? WE NEED MORE GOV'T!!!

    The only ones asking that question are those that believe Gov't could have stopped these problems to begin with.
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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Welcome to "Why eating food from factory farms can be hazardous to your health: An Introduction."
    And "organic farms" are immune from problems
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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Never let a good crisis go to waste!

    What, Gov't Regulation and Control isn't perfect? WE NEED MORE GOV'T!!!

    The only ones asking that question are those that believe Gov't could have stopped these problems to begin with.
    Who is talking about a crisis here? I phrased my OP in order to present 2 sides to a discussion, then asked for discussion, in which there has some pretty good back and forth between the participants. Why don't you join the discussion? How about presenting an intelligent dialog which addresses why the government should not get involved? Or should it? And, if so, then to what extent?
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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Never let a good crisis go to waste!

    What, Gov't Regulation and Control isn't perfect? WE NEED MORE GOV'T!!!

    The only ones asking that question are those that believe Gov't could have stopped these problems to begin with.
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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And "organic farms" are immune from problems
    Not immune, but if you've ever set foot on a factory farm (and I have), you'll understand why I don't like to eat food from them.

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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Never let a good crisis go to waste!

    What, Gov't Regulation and Control isn't perfect? WE NEED MORE GOV'T!!!

    The only ones asking that question are those that believe Gov't could have stopped these problems to begin with.
    I actually don't believe that new regulations are in order. I believe that these reports, over time, will lead to greater demand for sustainably farmed, organic, non-environmentally cataclysmic methods of farming, and I trust the free market to fill that gap.

    However, I also believe in cutting off subsidies for factory farms. I'm sick of my tax dollars subsidizing an industry that has such detrimental effects on overall health and the environment.

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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I actually don't believe that new regulations are in order. I believe that these reports, over time, will lead to greater demand for sustainably farmed, organic, non-environmentally cataclysmic methods of farming, and I trust the free market to fill that gap.

    However, I also believe in cutting off subsidies for factory farms. I'm sick of my tax dollars subsidizing an industry that has such detrimental effects on overall health and the environment.
    This is another reason why consumer choices will not have an impact on these industries. Our own government is in bed with them.

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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Who is talking about a crisis here? I phrased my OP in order to present 2 sides to a discussion, then asked for discussion, in which there has some pretty good back and forth between the participants. Why don't you join the discussion? How about presenting an intelligent dialog which addresses why the government should not get involved? Or should it? And, if so, then to what extent?
    I wasn't talking at you Dan, I DID join the discussion. There are those tha will see these isolated food outbreaks as a"Crisis" to expand gov't.

    Why do you miss that eh?
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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Not immune, but if you've ever set foot on a factory farm (and I have), you'll understand why I don't like to eat food from them.
    I get my chicken from Pilgrim's Pride

    I just don't get too worried about Factory Farms. Animals are Animals... as long as they aren't being harmed, starved or abused (and I suppose that's a relative bar for some)... food is food.
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    Re: Nationwide meat recall announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I wasn't talking at you Dan, I DID join the discussion. There are those tha will see these isolated food outbreaks as a"Crisis" to expand gov't.

    Why do you miss that eh?
    OK, my bad.

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