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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You don't know history do you? How many Soviets died at the hands of their Gov't? I'll give you a hint, it's higher then the number of Jews Hitler killed.

    On Topic, I have no desire to play a game that places you as "the Taliban".

    MOH series sucks anyhoots.
    Tru dat. MoH has never appealed to me. I know the Soviets where bad....so if they released a game when you are a soviet soldier and the whole point is to rape Russian families and kill children and kidnap them then yes, i would count it as rather tasteless. However the depiction of the Soviets in COD 1/2 for example are largely positive due to there actions against Nazi dominance, although as i said, this issue with the Taliban in helmand is an ongoing conflict right now, as we speak. It doesn't create sympathies for the Taliban and there is no evidence to suggest it influences others, however, depicting there struggle in a storyline, if anything, only helps glorifies them. Well put it this way, it doesn't shed a bad light on them.
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I dont really see anything wrong with the game or why having a Taliban storyline is any worse than having any other kind of storyline.

    BF2 had you playing as Chechen rebels and insurgents from Unspecifiedistan. Just Cause had you aiding drug cartels and South American rebel groups.

    Are they worried this might generate sympathy for the Taliban? I dont think that's a well-founded worry if that's the case
    Just Cause has never been based off true events in a nation that exists. It is entirely fictious. On the other hand playing as Nazi's to help the holocaust or perhaps be in a bunker shooting and massacring allied soldiers on D-Day as they land on the shores of Normandy, surely, is tasteless? It's why IM against it, anyway.
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Where was all the bitching when I could play as the Nazis in a million WWII games?
    Most of those games are strategy games.
    Strategy games mostly do not involve a deep storyline and a realist theme, and hence do not raise any awkward feelings, such as the feelings one had when playing the terrorist in the COD:MW2 airport scene.
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Most of those games are strategy games.
    Strategy games mostly do not involve a deep storyline and a realist theme, and hence do not raise any awkward feelings, such as the feelings one had when playing the terrorist in the COD:MW2 airport scene.
    Exactly. Hence the purpose of First Person Shooter. If there was no significance to seeing something from somebody else's eyes, well, it wouldn't be a very relevant format.
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The game's publishers Electronic Arts said the minister had portrayed parts of the game inaccurately.

    The government said Dr Fox was expressing a "personal view".

    BBC News - Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quiet frankly, i agree with him. EA is playing a dangerous game (excuse the pun).
    EA is ****. Who still buys crap from that company anyway

    But let the developers do what they wish as long as they obviously meet the standards. People need to quit giving it free publicity. I didn't know about this game until Liam opened his mouth and started whining about it.


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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    EA is ****. Who still buys crap from that company anyway

    But let the developers do what they wish as long as they obviously meet the standards. People need to quit giving it free publicity. I didn't know about this game until Liam opened his mouth and started whining about it.
    Ubisoft is the worst. It's one of those companies that make you ashamed to be British.
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Ubisoft is the worst. It's one of those companies that make you ashamed to be British.
    Ubisoft is French.
    Worse is probably Activision.

    I have a lot of companies on my 'never gonna buy a game from' list.


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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Just so we're clear, I'm not criticizing you for your point of view, but I have to ask why.

    MOH has decent gameplay, but they went down a serious WTF road with Airborne. Since when do the Nazis have a huge doom fortress with flakk cannons and elite stormtroopers that HAND WIELD MG42 machine guns?
    I'm a Veteran, it's not something that appeals to me. I don't mind fictional "bad guys" or fantastical recreations. Like CC Generals, I was great as the "Chinese" though to be honest, I caused the game to be changed playing as the USA against some of the Developers (I was in the beta and got to know some at the time).
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Ubisoft is French.
    Ah darn! Got me there.

    Worse is probably Activision.
    Best is probably Bethesda imo (watch you name the company that made WoW now lol).

    I have a lot of companies on my 'never gonna buy a game from' list.
    Hmhmm. Put Russian Stella Star on that list. They made a racing game and accidentally forgot to include collision and gravity. Boy, those kossacks! They probs where drunk when they where developing it.
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    Re: Liam Fox defends call for ban of Medal of Honor game

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Tru dat. MoH has never appealed to me. I know the Soviets where bad....so if they released a game when you are a soviet soldier and the whole point is to rape Russian families and kill children and kidnap them then yes, i would count it as rather tasteless. However the depiction of the Soviets in COD 1/2 for example are largely positive due to there actions against Nazi dominance, although as i said, this issue with the Taliban in helmand is an ongoing conflict right now, as we speak. It doesn't create sympathies for the Taliban and there is no evidence to suggest it influences others, however, depicting there struggle in a storyline, if anything, only helps glorifies them. Well put it this way, it doesn't shed a bad light on them.
    Playing as a Soviet Soldier in the Great Patriotic War, that's good ****. I forget which game, it's been a while, but there is one where you have an entire Russian Campaign, good stuff.
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