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    U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    (Reuters) - A U.S. district court issued a preliminary injunction on Monday stopping federal funding of human embryonic stem cell research, in a slap to the Obama administration's new guidelines on the sensitive issue.

    The court ruled in favor of a suit filed in June by researchers who said human embryonic stem cell research involved the destruction of human embryos.

    Judge Royce Lamberth granted the injunction after finding the lawsuit would likely succeed because the guidelines violated law banning the use of federal funds to destroy human embryos.
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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Is the human embryo more valuable than the human fetus? It's legal to suck the life out of a pre-born child yet illegal to harvest an embryo to save a babies life.

    Wow, is this country ever screwed up....

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy | Reuters

    After all the hoopla, Obama get's smacked down.
    That's all that really matter to you? How Obama looks.

    You couldn't care less about Stem Cell research or the real issue, but as long as it can be used against Obama...

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy | Reuters

    After all the hoopla, Obama get's smacked down.
    Yeah, we just found this out a few hours ago. I'm not sure what the University we're contracted with is going to do with the research we've accumulated thus far, but I think we have enough viable cells to keep going for a little while longer if they really want to stretch it out. It's up to them, though - they are the ones getting the funding. If the funding dries up, then i'm sure they'll shelve it and contact us about dropping the project.

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    That's all that really matter to you? How Obama looks.

    You couldn't care less about Stem Cell research or the real issue, but as long as it can be used against Obama...
    This only stops federal funding of embryonic research. Besides more strides have been made with adult stem cells than embryonic ones. Less chance of rejection etc.
    I do have a question though. Whenever this subject comes up, headlines are Stem Cell research funding cut off by Bush, for example. then you read the artical and they are talking embryotic stem cells. Same with this one.Bush was never against adult stem cell research, or the federal funding of it, but everyone always says that. Why? Is it because they want to make him look heartless or do they just not know there is a difference?

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    That's all that really matter to you? How Obama looks.

    You couldn't care less about Stem Cell research or the real issue, but as long as it can be used against Obama...
    Maybe cause I think Obama was wrong and it's good to see this happen?

    Maybe I believe that Embryonic Stem Cell is morally corrupt?

    Not everyone has such little regard for human life as you do.
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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    This only stops federal funding of embryonic research. Besides more strides have been made with adult stem cells than embryonic ones. Less chance of rejection etc.
    Even if it is true that adult stem cells produce "greater strides," there are nevertheless qualities of embryonic stems cells that adult stem cells do not have. Adult and embryonic stem cells are different, so different research can be achieved with both. Why foreclose any avenue of research? It's not like it's a choice between one of the other, we can research both to even greater effect. Furthermore, I disagree that embyonic stem cells are not as valuable for research purposes as adult. We haven't done the research on an extensive number of embryonic stem cell lines. We simply don't have enough embryonic stem cell lines under the ban to do meaningful research on them, so who knows what is waiting around the corner. We've already lost too much precious time with this pointless ban.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I do have a question though. Whenever this subject comes up, headlines are Stem Cell research funding cut off by Bush, for example. then you read the artical and they are talking embryotic stem cells.
    Nobody opposes adult stem cell research, so it is a nonissue. Opposition to "stem cell research" is simply a byword for the more cumbersome "embryonic stem cell research."

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Maybe cause I think Obama was wrong and it's good to see this happen?

    Maybe I believe that Embryonic Stem Cell is morally corrupt?

    Not everyone has such little regard for human life as you do.
    The lawsuit is not about human life it is a battle over money:

    Dr. James Sherley of Boston Biomedical Research Institute and Theresa Deisher of Washington-based AVM Biotechnology, who both work with adult stem cells, filed the original suit saying the guidelines would harm their work by increasing competition for limited federal funding. They both oppose the use of human embryonic stem cells.

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The lawsuit is not about human life it is a battle over money:
    Is it ever about anything else?

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    Re: U.S. court rules against Obama's stem cell policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Maybe cause I think Obama was wrong and it's good to see this happen?

    Maybe I believe that Embryonic Stem Cell is morally corrupt?

    Not everyone has such little regard for human life as you do.
    I've always been curious about these types of responses. Do you feel this way because you think the embryos are forcibly removed from a woman for research purposes, or do you realize that the embryos destroyed were headed into the dumpster anyway? If you realize that the latter is the truth, are you equally opposed to fertilization procedures that millions of Americans will attempt in order to make a baby this year alone?

    It seems that the only way one can be opposed to embryonic stem cell research is to simultaneously oppose IVF, which pretty much kills the "I have more regard for human life than you do" argument. I'm not making fun of your argument by any means, but I am understandably curious.
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