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    China has to pursue political reform to safeguard its economic health, Premier Wen Jiabao said during a visit to the booming town of Shenzhen, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

    Wen's call for political reform lacked specifics. But his comments reflect broader worries that unless the Party embraces at least limited reforms to make officials more answerable, then corruption and abuses may erode the country's economic prospects.

    "Without the safeguarding of political restructuring, China may lose what it has already achieved through economic restructuring and the targets of its modernization drive might not be reached," Wen was quoted by Xinhua as saying.
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    Sounds like good stuff to me.
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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    I wouldn't necessarily say so. The interest is in reducing the corruption that hinders economic development. It has nothing to do with corruption that advances it. The CPC is notorious in its complicity with foreign investment at the expense of its domestic workers. The party is filled with red capitalists.

    The problem with such a party bureaucracy is that it doesn't have a symbiotic connection with the capitalist class, and so it is inefficient in advancing the interests of capital (both foreign and domestic). This basically is calling for reforms to bring the party closer to capital; this does not imply any form of accountability, democracy, etc...
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    Oh, give me a break. They have been saying this for a long time. I was living in Shanghai and I distinctly remember then sitting in a restaurant with friends of mine watching the premier talk about reform and how it was imminent. That was more than a decade ago.

    Words mean nothing. They say a lot, but do little. This is something they do. Their words make the press, those words make the West and others happy, but they don't actually follow through.
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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Oh, give me a break. They have been saying this for a long time. I was living in Shanghai and I distinctly remember then sitting in a restaurant with friends of mine watching the premier talk about reform and how it was imminent. That was more than a decade ago.

    Words mean nothing. They say a lot, but do little. This is something they do. Their words make the press, those words make the West and others happy, but they don't actually follow through.
    What he said, I have the same story but reading it in a news paper a few years ago.

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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    While the Chinese government has used such language as propaganda for many years, China may indeed be nearing a wall they will be forced to climb. As the wages in the country increase and the cost of business rises, China will be forced to make real reform in order to compete, lest they lose their attractiveness to foreign investment and find their economy in shambles. Corruption, though I suspect, will remain.

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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    While the Chinese government has used such language as propaganda for many years, China may indeed be nearing a wall they will be forced to climb. As the wages in the country increase and the cost of business rises, China will be forced to make real reform in order to compete, lest they lose their attractiveness to foreign investment and find their economy in shambles. Corruption, though I suspect, will remain.
    I think the issue is this.

    As any country becomes more and more affluent, it inevitably demands better, from services to reform.

    As more and more government revenue comes from Chinese citizens taxes and spending, they gotta keep them happy.

    It's all a money game.

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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    People have been saying the same thing for 20 years... veteran China watchers like myself have grown rather cynical of these calls to reform, whether it be of the financial system, currency exchange rates, or process of government...
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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    People have been saying the same thing for 20 years... veteran China watchers like myself have grown rather cynical of these calls to reform, whether it be of the financial system, currency exchange rates, or process of government...
    I would assume that you would, but you must admit that as China has become more and more affluent, the economy at least has become very Western and free compared to prior history.

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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I would assume that you would, but you must admit that as China has become more and more affluent, the economy at least has become very Western and free compared to prior history.
    Actually, this is not the case, but I am not going to get into it now... I am very tired and have an early morning training ride tomorrow...

    I suggest reading "In the Jaws of the Dragon" by Eamonn Fingleton. He hit a lot of nails right on the head in his work.
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    Re: China Premier Wen calls for political reform: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: Reuters

    Sounds like good stuff to me.
    Meh. Corruption is too ingrained in China to be gotten rid of by one man. It's even in the afterlife -- you have to bribe the guardian of the gate to Hell to get in.

    Corruption charges are a great way to purge unpopular party members, though. Maybe that's what he's leading up to.

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