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    Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    New York (CNN) -- With chants and banners, opponents of the planned construction of an Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero faced off Sunday with demonstrators in favor of the facility.

    Hundreds of critics and supporters of the proposed center in New York showed up despite an overcast and drizzly sky to express their views amid the national debate over the facility.

    Police estimated that supporters of the center numbered up to 250, and critics numbered about 450 during the demonstration.

    A banner on the anti-center side said, "Land of the free. Stop sharia before it stops you," referring to Islamic law. Another sign read, "No mosque here. Preserve the dignity of our loved ones killed on 9/11."
    How does building a Community Center over a Burlington Coat Factory effect the dignity of 9/11 victims?

    Does Bruce Springstein know that these wing-nuts have hijacked his song "Born in the USA"?

    I guess the Constitution is an inconvenient document...

    Pretty pathetic, if you ask me, that a multi-cultured country can be so racist and xenophobic.

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    Another critic, Shawn Gilfeather, called it "a breeding ground for terrorists."
    Where, on the basketball court or the Child Care room?? What an idiot. Thanks Glenn and Sean for dumbing down our country and wiping your ass with the Bill of Rights. 'Freedom of Religion (except Islam)'. Idiots!

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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Two questions, How many faiths will they allow to have services in their mosque....er, uh....Community center? And, will they be teaching Shria law in that place?


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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Two questions, How many faiths will they allow to have services in their mosque....er, uh....Community center?
    It's a community centre where anyone can go... do Muslims go into Christain Churches or Synagogues and start praying? I mean if you REALLY REALLY feel that you have to go pray in a Muslim Prayer Room be my guest Jet Pack.

    And, will they be teaching Shria law in that place?


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    Does it matter? I Mean surely ANY muslim place of worship COULD teach Sharia Law, why not tear them all down?

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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Two questions, How many faiths will they allow to have services in their mosque....er, uh....Community center? And, will they be teaching Shria law in that place?


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    Teaching Shria law? What the hell does that mean? They can teach the history and culture of their faith all they want. Just like the Catholic church, just like the Jewish Synagogue.

    What you're not understanding is that the fringe-right, Newt, Sean, Glenn, having been ginning this thing up and painting an false picture of Imam and the Center.

    Get better informed and then rejoin the thread.

    The ignorance of people trying to associate an entire religion with extremists. Does the Spanish Inquisition = the Catholic Church? Or do clinic bombers represent all evangelicals?

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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It's a community centre where anyone can go... do Muslims go into Christain Churches or Synagogues and start praying? I mean if you REALLY REALLY feel that you have to go pray in a Muslim Prayer Room be my guest
    then why not call it what it is? A Mosque. If you think my statement allows for Islam to practice in a Church, or Synagogue, then this is no "community center" and that term for it was only adopted to deceive people as to what its goals are.


    Does it matter? I Mean surely ANY muslim place of worship COULD teach Sharia Law, why not tear them all down?

    I didn't ask you if they "could" teach Shria, I asked if they were going to hold those classes within the Mosque of conquest known as Cordoba house? And yes it does matter.


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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    I guess the Constitution is an inconvenient document to some people...

    Pretty pathetic, if you ask me, that a freedom loving country can be so bigoted and politically correct...

    Thanks MSNBC and MoveOn for dumbing down our country and wiping your ass with the Bill of Rights. 'Freedom of Speech and Assembly (except against Islam)'. Idiots!

    Seriously Hazl, what you'r doing is no different than what they're doing. They're using their CONSTITUTIONAL right to free speech to speak against something, just as you are.

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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Teaching Shria law? What the hell does that mean? They can teach the history and culture of their faith all they want. Just like the Catholic church, just like the Jewish Synagogue.

    However it is those like yourself hazelnut on the liberal fringe that are defending this mosque as some sort of community center now, but any analogy you make is to a church, or synagogue. Interesting. But we can not call this mosque of conquest what it is, a mosque? why?


    What you're not understanding is that the fringe-right, Newt, Sean, Glenn, having been ginning this thing up and painting an false picture of Imam and the Center.
    What false picture are they painting, and be specific with quotes please.


    Get better informed and then rejoin the thread.
    is that kind of bull necessary? Why don't you try actually having a discussion instead of showing your ass all the time?


    The ignorance of people trying to associate an entire religion with extremists.

    Who's doing that? Your response seems a little defensive.


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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York



    How does building a Community Center over a Burlington Coat Factory effect the dignity of 9/11 victims?

    Does Bruce Springstein know that these wing-nuts have hijacked his song "Born in the USA"?

    I guess the Constitution is an inconvenient document...

    Pretty pathetic, if you ask me, that a multi-cultured country can be so racist and xenophobic.

    Check out this genius:



    Where, on the basketball court or the Child Care room?? What an idiot. Thanks Glenn and Sean for dumbing down our country and wiping your ass with the Bill of Rights. 'Freedom of Religion (except Islam)'. Idiots!
    Speaking of Glenn Beck..

    Dems are protesting his insensitivity of his planned Honor rally to be held in front of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC 47 yrs. to the day of MLK's "I have a dream speech."
    Dems are saying Aug. 28th is something special.

    Do you see the hypocracy here?

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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I guess the Constitution is an inconvenient document to some people...

    Pretty pathetic, if you ask me, that a freedom loving country can be so bigoted and politically correct...

    Thanks MSNBC and MoveOn for dumbing down our country and wiping your ass with the Bill of Rights. 'Freedom of Speech and Assembly (except against Islam)'. Idiots!

    Seriously Hazl, what you'r doing is no different than what they're doing. They're using their CONSTITUTIONAL right to free speech to speak against something, just as you are.

    Here's the point Zyphlin:

    I'm all for Freedom of Speech -- but know what you're talking about or I'll exercise my 1st Amendment Rights to be very critical of your ignorant hateful ranting. (e.g. Fred Phelps)

    These people who are against the Community Center, are full of Impotent Rage. They've had the truth distorted and reality all ginned up in their scared little heads. Now they're just spewing vile ignorance.

    And, as I'm sure you know, there are limits to Free Speech. Should anyone cross the line and start talking about a criminal act against the Community Center in lower Manhattan... That speech is not protected.

    And the ignorant, bigoted crap being spewed yesterday is just a watered down version of that. That's the point.

    And if you ever want to address the real issue of associating an entire religeon with a tiny group of violent extremists, let me know. But your tired overgeneralized "moveon, Msnbc" rant is tiresome and boring.

    I am the conservative in this argument. I am the one unconditionally embracing the Constitution and the law.

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    Re: Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Speaking of Glenn Beck..

    Dems are protesting his insensitivity of his planned Honor rally to be held in front of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC 47 yrs. to the day of MLK's "I have a dream speech."
    Dems are saying Aug. 28th is something special.

    Do you see the hypocracy here?
    Why don't you start a thread to talk about that. This one already has a topic.

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