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Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York

And what about muslims who are comming out against this Imam and his planned victory mosque? Explain that disney, you can't can you?

I would bet the majority of Muslims who "oppose" this Mosque do so because they fear the building of it will lead to a increase of attacks on Muslims and/or demonization on their faith and increase security risks to their community

And from what I have seen they have reason to worry, it takes little to push many Americans into the arena of paranoia and dislike of Islam/Muslims :shrug:
 
I would bet the majority of Muslims who "oppose" this Mosque do so because they fear the building of it will lead to a increase of attacks on Muslims and/or demonization on their faith and increase security risks to their community

And from what I have seen they have reason to worry, it takes little to push many Americans into the arena of paranoia and dislike of Islam/Muslims :shrug:

Or, to put it another way, "we don't take **** off nobody".
 
I would bet the majority of Muslims who "oppose" this Mosque do so because they fear the building of it will lead to a increase of attacks on Muslims and/or demonization on their faith and increase security risks to their community

And from what I have seen they have reason to worry, it takes little to push many Americans into the arena of paranoia and dislike of Islam/Muslims :shrug:

Laila have you read Imam Rauf's book "A call to prayer, from the World Trade Center rubble, Islamic dawah from the heart of America post 9-11" I have ordered my copy and should receive it within a day or two.
 
Laila have you read Imam Rauf's book "A call to prayer, from the World Trade Center rubble, Islamic dawah from the heart of America post 9-11" I have ordered my copy and should receive it within a day or two.

No, I am currently reading other books.

I have no doubt tho that you'll post a very detailed review of why the gentlemen is a terrorist in disguise
 
No, you're listening to Fox News and not doing any critical thinking or independent research.


Wrong, I've looked at the entire transcript from the 60 minutes interview where he blamed the United States for 9-11 and said OBL was made in the USA, I've listened to the entire podcast of the WABC radio interview where he repeatedly refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, I've read the entire article he wrote supporting Sharia, and I've watched the entire video where he compares the United States unfavorably to Al-Qaeda.


The radical Imam thing has been debunked. He's a moderate leader of mainstream American Muslims.

If an overt Islamist is moderate then what's radical?
 
No, I am currently reading other books.

I have no doubt tho that you'll post a very detailed review of why the gentlemen is a terrorist in disguise

I thought he was a moderate? Don't all moderate muslims want sharia law in the United States?
 
I thought he was a moderate? Don't all moderate muslims want sharia law in the United States?

Who dictates what is a moderate or not?

I most certainly do not. If someone calls themselves Moderate, good for them. Don't rain over my parade, every Muslim differs.
 
What is LAME is the complete disregard that these supposed "Americans" have for our freedoms and rights.
This isn't about insensitivity. Its about the right-wing seeking to preach their hatred and intolerance...and it is completely reprehensible.

Hatred and intolerance are the seeds that will destroy the soul of America.

Hatred and intolerance of intolerance is not a bad thing, this man is an overt Islamist and thus an enemy of liberalism and secularism who is trying to build the Islamic equivalent of an Evangelical Mega-Church at ground zero.

Would you support an overtly anti-homesexual Evangelical Mega-Church 2 blocks from the site where Mathew Shepherd was killed? How about an Orthodox Cathedral in the town of Srebrenica? Would you not question the motivations of those who proposed such a thing?

Anyways I love how you defend tooth and nail the property and first amendment rights of an overt Islamist but criticize and label a huge group of people opposed to this Islamist as bigots who are merely exercising their first amendment rights to encourage others to exercise their right of self ownership not to enter into voluntary contractual obligations to trade their labour for the Islamists capital.
 
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Nah.
Paranoia is the accurate word.

If the Muslims would get their **** together, it wouldn't be an issue.

The problem I have with Muslims is the same problem I have with blacks: members of your community show their asses, you all as a group do nothing to stem that tide, then piss-n-moan when you don't get the respect you think you deserve. grow up!!!

Imam Rauf are no different than clowns like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
 
Who dictates what is a moderate or not?

I most certainly do not. If someone calls themselves Moderate, good for them. Don't rain over my parade, every Muslim differs.

What about you? Do you believe that sharia law should be instilled in the US?
 
So they have to actually kill someone to be considered radical??? lol Noice.

That was not a serious response.

Guess I have to bust out my old /sarcasm :roll:
 
Who dictates what is a moderate or not?

I most certainly do not. If someone calls themselves Moderate, good for them. Don't rain over my parade, every Muslim differs.

The Muslims that blow **** up in the name of Allah, are not.
 
What about you? Do you believe that sharia law should be instilled in the US?

US is not my problem. I am not a citizen of it, why do I care if Americans choose to implement sharia or not?
Ask me the same question with UK and I'll answer it :shrug:
 
US is not my problem. I am not a citizen of it, why do I care if Americans choose to implement sharia or not?
Ask me the same question with UK and I'll answer it :shrug:

In that case, why you you care what Americans think of Muslims??
 
US is not my problem. I am not a citizen of it, why do I care if Americans choose to implement sharia or not?
Ask me the same question with UK and I'll answer it :shrug:

Its to late they already have sharia courts in the UK. Do you approve of them?
 
The Muslims that blow **** up in the name of Allah, are not.

True but 9/10 that person see themselves as a radical, not moderate.
 
In that case, why you you care what Americans think of Muslims??

Because I have a vested interest is the best way I can put it.
 
Its to late they already have sharia courts in the UK. Do you approve of them?

As long as British law is seen supreme with Parliament as sovereign, I am apathetic to them.
I have no qualms in all religious courts being shut down in UK along with secularism in schools and abolishment of faith schools but I am only one voter
 
That was not a serious response.

Guess I have to bust out my old /sarcasm :roll:

I know hence my lol and "noice" at the end. It sounded different in my head then how it reads. Meh meh. It should of read like laughing satirical agreement with a twinge of acknowledgment of the absurdity.
 
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As long as British law is seen supreme with Parliament as sovereign, I am apathetic to them.
I have no qualms in all religious courts being shut down in UK along with secularism in schools and abolishment of faith schools but I am only one voter

Intresting, it would seem that you truely are a moderate. Or are you deceiving me because Im a kaffir?
 
Intresting, it would seem that you truely are a moderate. Or are you deceiving me because Im a kaffir?

Yeah Sgt.
I make a effort to trick all infidels into believing I am moderate so I can stab them and slit their throat whilst they drink alcohol and THEN ... I go outside and make a offering to Hitler dancing naked on a full moon and pray for the death of all Non Muslims ....

Is that what you wanted to hear?
 
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