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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    One wonders why you waste your time here with us dolts....What's the matter? Didn't Pravda have any openings on their debate site?
    It puzzles me too... Pravda, eh? Well, I'd have to brush up on my cyrillic. Do you have a link?

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Or wrong in the sense of he shouldn't have said what he said. Being to the Right, does not make one automatically right, FYI.

    Who said it does? But I don't think you can make an informed opinion on this provided that you've only seen how the MSM characterizes it.


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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    It puzzles me too... Pravda, eh? Well, I'd have to brush up on my cyrillic. Do you have a link?

    I am sure you have google like me....Happy trails Mr. Marx.


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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    It puzzles me too... Pravda, eh? Well, I'd have to brush up on my cyrillic. Do you have a link?
    Cyrillic's easy. What gets you is the way the end of a word changes three times in one sentence.


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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    [Obama's]Father was Muslim, and the Arab Street sees him as such.
    Fine. The Muslim world see's President Obama as a Muslim. But Franklin Graham's argument isn't about how the rest of the world views the President as far as his religious "birth right" is concerned. His sole purpose for bringing this issue up once again is to try and reinforce the notion that somehow this President isn't on America's side/doesn't have America's interest at heart. I'm sure the birthers are pleased, but the rest of the country will blow Franklin Graham off much as was done the last time he tried to convince us that the President's religious birth right meant something in the good ole U.S. of A. Got news for you, it does not!

    Freedom of religion is a powerful thing in this country. One's right to choose for him/herself what religion to practice is what makes Graham's comments so foolish.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Conversion from Islam to any other faith (or no faith) gains one a death sentence.
    Actually, that is true...in most Middle-Eastern countries where Islam is the national religion. But here in America, we don't have to worry about being stoned to death just because we don't follow a national religious because...



    ....wait for it....




    ...the Constitution forbids the federal government from imposing a national religion on its people!

    So, why some of you continue to play up Franklin Graham's comments as some rigid tennant on religious birth rights, I will never understand except that it serves a purpose to instill fear in the hearts and minds of people. I dismiss it out of hand even among those who decree this as a matter of principle. This is yet another failed attempt at "throwing something against the wall and seeing if it sticks".

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What do you mean he isn't his father's son? Billy Graham was one of Regan's biggest supporters, an anti-semite, and politically outspoken... I don't particularly care much assholes like him but the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I think if your congregation is above 1000 people, you're a business.
    The Billy Graham I recall was friends to all presidents. I don't remember him ever bashing Carter or Clinton. Billy Graham stuck to religion, which is what Franklin needs to do. I'm sure that Billy voted Republican, but I really don't remember him making political statements like Franklin.



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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Obama's father became an atheist though. What's the Islamic view of being the son of an apostate father?
    Oh, please don't confuse them with facts.

    They've found something "else" they can whine about, trying to figure out how to fit in the fact that his father was apostate will blow up their already fragile minds!



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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Doubtful. Just another cave to the liberal scream machine.


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    Or he finally saw the error of his comments. With reasonable people fact do have that effect from time to time.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Belonging to a certain religion isn't something that happens when you are born, it's something that you decide for yourself. You can't be born Muslim, just like you can't be born Christian. There isn't a gene that decides your religion for you.
    Not according to the religions themselves.. Technically Obama was born a Muslim because his father was a Muslim. Just as if your father was a Christian, then you are born a Christian.

    But I agree fully it is something you choose now days, as those outdated practices are thankfully long gone in society as a whole... sadly some people are still brainwashed to think that they still are around.
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