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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Oh, right... Fox News ginning up the GOP base with good ol' fashion xenophobia...
    Yeah, it is only FOX News running with this.



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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And JFK was a Catholic.

    Several Sundays shows made the point -- why does it matter if he is?

    Oh, right... Fox News ginning up the GOP base with good ol' fashion xenophobia...

    Ironic, that a Nation founded by immigrants should harbor that much fear of foreigners...
    Name one person who said they feared foreigners in this thread.

    This is about a clear factual history nothing more. And no one in this thread is claiming Obama is still a Muslim.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    It does nothing to change the fact that Obama had a Christian upbringing.
    False. After he moved to Chicago and wanted to run for public office he began attending Trinity.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    The article posted is from ABC news.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And JFK was a Catholic.

    Several Sundays shows made the point -- why does it matter if he is?

    Oh, right... Fox News ginning up the GOP base with good ol' fashion xenophobia...

    Ironic, that a Nation founded by immigrants should harbor that much fear of foreigners...
    Good old Hazlnut, wondered when you'd stumble onto this thread and puke your worthless partisan bile upon it, to entertain us with your never ending flow of puerile invective hatefilled rantings. Most of which show you hardly read the OP, hardly think about the thread, you see something that doesn't praise your POV and you hit "Reply with Quote" and then just let your fingers do the damage with a flow of consciousness slime across the reply box.

    When you decide to read the thread, understand what's being discussed and articulate something worth the effort to respond to, we'll be waiting, however I believe the forum has awaited that moment from you since the very first time you posted here.

    Oh and the ARTICLE IS FROM ABC NEWS! You make it too easy man.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Where did I say that? Produce the quote.

    Please do not continue to lie about my position. I have never lumped him in with all "radical Muslims". In fact I refuse to call them radical muslims at all. Your claims are completely without proof or merit in any way.

    Where have I even said I fear he was once a Muslim?

    You really need to stop making up things I never ever said.
    Have you ever defended the President's right to be a Muslim regardless of which religion he follows?

    Have you ever corrected anyone who claimed he was a Muslim even while you've defended him herein?

    Have you ever come to the President's defense and defended his claim of being a Christian besides herein?

    If you have, then I apologize. If not, then making a single statement the President later decided to be baptized as a Christian just doesn't cut it. If you honestly believe that the religion of his birth doesn't automatically equate to the religion he now practises as a man, then you should defend him at every turn on this matter. If not and you shy away from defending him, then you're basically supporting the disengenious belief that he's a part of radical Islam. And that's not fair nor is it right.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    I don't think anyone who ever listened to a sermon from Rev. Billy Graham would claim that his son isn't like him.

    ABC went to him for this article, so who's really the one stirring things up?

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Have you ever defended the President's right to be a Muslim regardless of which religion he follows?

    What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Have you ever corrected anyone who claimed he was a Muslim even while you've defended him herein?

    What?
    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Have you ever come to the President's defense and defended his claim of being a Christian besides herein?

    What?
    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If you have, then I apologize. If not, then making a single statement the President later decided to be baptized as a Christian just doesn't cut it. If you honestly believe that the religion of his birth doesn't automatically equate to the religion he now practises as a man, then you should defend him at every turn on this matter. If not and you shy away from defending him, then you're basically supporting the disengenious belief that he's a part of radical Islam. And that's not fair nor is it right.
    The discussion is that according to Islam, OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. All this other... petty silliness you posted, is petty silliness.

    We have no NEED to defend him at "every turn on the matter" cause you are discussing X and we are talking about Y. How about you step away from the debate and come back when you are ready to discuss the TOPIC and what's being said, not what ever conversation you imagine is going on.

    If not and you shy away from defending him, then you're basically supporting the disengenious belief that he's a part of radical Islam. And that's not fair nor is it right.
    NO ONE IS IMPLYING THIS BUT YOU AND A FEW OTHER HARD CORE OBAMA FOLLOWERS CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TOLD TO DEFLECT ALL DISCUSSION OF OBAMA AND ISLAM.

    You are scared to face the issue.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    NO ONE IS IMPLYING THIS BUT YOU AND A FEW OTHER HARD CORE OBAMA FOLLOWERS CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TOLD TO DEFLECT ALL DISCUSSION OF OBAMA AND ISLAM.

    You are scared to face the issue.
    And what issue is that? That the President was "born" a Muslim? Okay, but again I say so what? Is he a practising Muslim? Is so, does he believe as radical Muslims believe? Those should've been the questions anyone who worries so about Muslim extremist should have been asking? And once he went public and told his country that he was a Christian, the issue should have been dead! In of story!!! But instead, what has the opposition done? Tried every underhanded trick in the book to connect him w/radical Islam at every turn. How else are we to take your reasoning for bringing up this issue or even supporting what Rev. Franklin Graham said?

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    According to Pastafarian Law Obama is a Pastafarian. This, of course, means that Obama is a Pastafarian whether he likes it or not. All hail our noodly leader!

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