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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    He was an atheist.

    "My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition." - Source

    Keep in mind that this was written in 2006 before anyone gave a damn about what his father was.
    Right.

    That's why Obama got a muslim name.

    Makes perfect sense.

    Is there some particular reason we should read a man who's writing his own hagiography before he's even accomplished anything in life? Keep in mind that in 2006 he'd never once done anything useful in his whole life. But he's writing autobiographical novels.

    OH! I know! You were just trying to show us that a man's childhood upbringing influences his choices later in life.

    The allegedly atheist Obama Senior gives Junior his muslim name, that hidden muslim President can't call a radical islamic terrorist a radical islamic terrorist.

    Because he was raised muslim.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Here why don't we play with this little quote a little:

    "You shall have no other gods before me."
    Don't shove! You can have all the gods you want, don't get greedy, I don't want them.

    Now tell me, if I tell you that you can't have any other Gods before me in a commandment, what choice am I giving you? No, no. I believe you're running circles trying to explain the progressive ideas at the time. 'God' didn't give really give humanity a choice. If he did then he's not all knowing. A choice would mean that he thought it could go both ways and thus planned in the event of either case. Do you not understand the fallacy in saying that you have a choice when everything you do is already predetermined to end in a precise way regardless of what you do? No, no. Freedom of religion is NOT a Christian idea. It isn't so in the 21st century much less the 16th or 17th century.
    Guess what? You're going to fail your theology class if you're going to argue that the First Suggestion eliminates the concept of free will and divine punishment that permeates the old testament.

    But since I'm not a Believer, I'm going to let you make your mistakes anyway you want to.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Right.

    That's why Obama got a muslim name.

    Makes perfect sense.

    Is there some particular reason we should read a man who's writing his own hagiography before he's even accomplished anything in life? Keep in mind that in 2006 he'd never once done anything useful in his whole life. But he's writing autobiographical novels.
    I see what you mean, that would be like an atheist naming their kid Joseph, or Peter, or Mary. We know that just does not happen...
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I see what you mean, that would be like an atheist naming their kid Joseph, or Peter, or Mary. We know that just does not happen...
    Or, you could provide evidence that little Barry, raised in a muslim household wasn't trained as a muslim.

    That's what's really key, here. That the Stalinist Senior Obama lost his first religion in favor of his second, doesn't mean the socialist Junior Obama wasn't raised muslim.

    Since he was raised muslim, that pretty much means he was raised muslim.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Or, you could provide evidence that little Barry, raised in a muslim household wasn't trained as a muslim.

    That's what's really key, here. That the Stalinist Senior Obama lost his first religion in favor of his second, doesn't mean the socialist Junior Obama wasn't raised muslim.

    Since he was raised muslim, that pretty much means he was raised muslim.
    He was not raised in a Muslim household. He was not raised Muslim at all. There is zero evidence he was raised Muslim. You have exactly zero facts to suggest he is Muslim. You have failed to provide even one fact to suggest he is Muslim. He is not a Muslim.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow
    Right.

    That's why Obama got a muslim name.

    Makes perfect sense.
    Um, he was named after his father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.

    This isn't really that difficult to grasp, Scarecrow. Lol you got pwned by 2 seconds of Googling.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Last night while watching 'Lost Gospels' on the science channel this comment of yours came to mind and it made me wonder if you understand anything about other religions that you're not a part of or don't have faith in?

    Buddhism, Taoism, Baha'i Faith, Wicca? Have you taken time to learn about any of these before you chose not to believe or follow their teachings?

    At what point do you excuse yourself from your own statement?
    At what point does knowledge about something become enough for someone to determine that they don't approve, support or want to follow it?
    1. I don't come on here claiming to know and understand those religions or present something as fact when it is not.
    2. I am quite familiar with Buddhism and Daoism, living in a country where both are practiced. I am especially familiar with Buddhism as my wife is Buddhist and I teach at a Zen Buddhist high school...
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by damianvincent View Post
    But his step father who raised him in Islamic schools certainly was also Muslim.
    He did not go to an Islamic school. He went to a secular school and a Catholic school while in Indonesia. I guess that makes him a Catholic then.... sheesh!!!
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by damianvincent View Post
    No it wasn't, it had two parts, one Christian, one Muslim, I'm not saying it was a maddrassa but it was an Islamic based education.
    In the time of Suharto, Indonesian public schools were strictly secular.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by damianvincent View Post
    Obama himself says in Dreams of my Father that he "attended a Muslim school while living in Indonesia"

    Obama attended a Muslim school while living in Indonesia as a child, but it was not madrassa

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/obamas-inabilit/.../2/
    He attended a PUBLIC school that had a majority Muslim population just like most PUBLIC schools in the United States have majority Christian populations...
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