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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Ok, I'm in.....Here's an honest question.

    Obama a Muslim or not...How does this relate as a State of the World and Threat intelligence. What does this mean to the world that is constantly weighing info and developing stances and/or strategies that will benefit/protect them on the world political stage????
    Our muslim-raised president ordered his Administration to remove all references to "radical islam" in it's official communications.

    Our muslim-raised president has not yet visited Israel, our only ally in the Middle East.

    Our muslim-raised president has described the screeching caterwauling of the muzzerein calling muslims to prayer the "sweetest sound in the world".

    Our muslim-raised president has BOWED to the leaders of lesser nations. All nations are lesser nations.

    Our muslim-raised president rejects the theory of American exceptionalism. Makes one wonder why he bothered to go into American politics.

    Our muslim-raised president sees no adverse symbolism in our enemies raising a monument to martyrdom on the grounds of their martyrs' greatest success, even though the name for the project, Cordoba House, makes it plain the terrorists are perfectly aware of what they're doing there.

    Our muslim-raised president sees no problems with the United States remaining dependent on oil from terrorist dominated states, and he even restricted domestic drilling to increase that dependency.

    Our muslim-raised president has stood by and allowed the mullahs in Iran to make huge advances in their nuclear weapons and ICBM programs.

    That's why it's important to know the truth about the people that get elected.

    The LEFT kept harping that old saw about the apple not falling far from the Bush in those elections.

    NOW they're going to pretend a man can not be affected by his childhood prejudices?
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Total hogwash. No way were the American people going to vote in an aging politican with a vice president with a beauty pagent brain.

    Obama will not be successful in cleaning up our problems nor will the next president. If you think you have someone who can clean up decades of corruption and greed in our country in one term you must be a true Palinite.
    So they voted in an incompetent inexperienced muslim with questionable allegiences and a confessed plagiarizer who was owned by the goonions and the credit card companies?

    The ISSUES never became the issue in the 2008 campaign. The adulating media could not afford to have the public consider the ISSUES with Obama on the ballot.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Our muslim-raised president ordered his Administration to remove all references to "radical islam" in it's official communications.

    Our muslim-raised president has not yet visited Israel, our only ally in the Middle East.

    Our muslim-raised president has described the screeching caterwauling of the muzzerein calling muslims to prayer the "sweetest sound in the world".

    Our muslim-raised president has BOWED to the leaders of lesser nations. All nations are lesser nations.

    Our muslim-raised president rejects the theory of American exceptionalism. Makes one wonder why he bothered to go into American politics.

    Our muslim-raised president sees no adverse symbolism in our enemies raising a monument to martyrdom on the grounds of their martyrs' greatest success, even though the name for the project, Cordoba House, makes it plain the terrorists are perfectly aware of what they're doing there.

    Our muslim-raised president sees no problems with the United States remaining dependent on oil from terrorist dominated states, and he even restricted domestic drilling to increase that dependency.

    Our muslim-raised president has stood by and allowed the mullahs in Iran to make huge advances in their nuclear weapons and ICBM programs.

    That's why it's important to know the truth about the people that get elected.

    The LEFT kept harping that old saw about the apple not falling far from the Bush in those elections.

    NOW they're going to pretend a man can not be affected by his childhood prejudices?
    There's a section you can go to.

    Conspiracy Theories

    Keep it there.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You might not be a believer yourself, Hatuey , and you can certainly believe whatever you want, but the United States was inspired by and founded on Christian principles and philosophies. That should be self evident. If it wasn't there would be no Bill of Rights, Constitution, and all that goes with it. That is what makes the US so different from other nations in the world. It wasn't just a fluke of nature.
    What 'Christian principles and philophies' was our country founded upon? Please show me which 'Christian' principle the first amendment would fall under? What about the second? Any part of the constitution? Better yet, show what part of Christianity was used as a basis for our representative republic? I'll wait.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    There's a section you can go to.

    Conspiracy Theories

    Keep it there.
    Which of the following facts are you contesting?

    That his biological father was muslim?

    That his biological father gave him a muslim name?

    That Islam views all native sons as muslims?

    That Obama's step-father raised the young Barry in a muslim household as a muslim?

    That Obama was raised as a child in a muslim nation?

    That Obama prayed in a mosque as a muslim when a child?

    If it's a "conspiracy" as you claim, identify which of the above facts are not true.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Pretty much all of those are false, yep.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What 'Christian principles and philophies' was our country founded upon? Please show me which 'Christian' principle the first amendment would fall under? What about the second? Any part of the constitution? Better yet, show what part of Christianity was used as a basis for our representative republic? I'll wait.
    As an atheist I was put my nickel on the "God gave man the freedom to choose between good and evil." Hence the insistence by our Founders that each man have his personal freedom to believe as he chose, and that the government must not have the power to legislate religion.

    Because our Founders recognized free will as an essential human freedom, and because the colonies had negative experience with the political alternative, they choose the ancient form of the republic to best guarantee that freedom without permitting the essential anarchy of pure democracy.

    Now, freedom of choice isn't unique to Christianity (it's absent from Islam, more complex in Judaism, and there's all those other religions), it was certainly the experience of the Christian and Deist Founders.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Pretty much all of those are false, yep.
    Oh.

    Got any evidence to show that Mr. Obie, senior, was a jew? A baptist? Perhaps he was a buddhist?

    So ya got nothing, because you couldn't pick one.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'


    Got any evidence to show that Mr. Obie, senior, was a jew? A baptist? Perhaps he was a buddhist?
    He was an atheist.

    "My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition." - Source

    Keep in mind that this was written in 2006 before anyone gave a damn about what his father was.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    As an atheist I was put my nickel on the "God gave man the freedom to choose between good and evil." Hence the insistence by our Founders that each man have his personal freedom to believe as he chose, and that the government must not have the power to legislate religion.

    Because our Founders recognized free will as an essential human freedom, and because the colonies had negative experience with the political alternative, they choose the ancient form of the republic to best guarantee that freedom without permitting the essential anarchy of pure democracy.

    Now, freedom of choice isn't unique to Christianity (it's absent from Islam, more complex in Judaism, and there's all those other religions), it was certainly the experience of the Christian and Deist Founders.
    Here why don't we play with this little quote a little:

    "You shall have no other gods before me."

    Now tell me, if I tell you that you can't have any other Gods before me in a commandment, what choice am I giving you? No, no. I believe you're running circles trying to explain the progressive ideas at the time. 'God' didn't give really give humanity a choice. If he did then he's not all knowing. A choice would mean that he thought it could go both ways and thus planned in the event of either case. Do you not understand the fallacy in saying that you have a choice when everything you do is already predetermined to end in a precise way regardless of what you do? No, no. Freedom of religion is NOT a Christian idea. It isn't so in the 21st century much less the 16th or 17th century.
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