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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Such as, pray tell?
    It might just be the read I get off of him, but whenever he talks about faith, it always has that slightly hollow, insipid tone to it. It's so preprogrammed, so rehearsed, and so trite that I can just tell he has no idea what it means to speak about faith from the heart.

    That, and his book has a great bit about how he learned religion was all bunk, and he seems to have picked his Chicago church purely for political gain, as he obviously has little to do with Wright's crackpot message.

    Simply put: I can't find a Christian thing about the man, and just as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I hardly see his lack of belief as a problem, though. I was under the impression that even Americans were astute enough to realise that religion has no place in politics -- Americans don't really care that he is pious, as long as he calls himself a Christian, right? I mean, the whole Christian/Muslim debate is POLITICAL posturing, it has nothing to do with actual religion!
    Personally, I think it's very much to do with religion. Your New York and Berkeley types may not care, but I think the large majority of people in, to pick a state at random, Alabama are seriously concerned about whether or not the President genuflects or bows towards Mecca.

    Atheists are the most mistrusted group of people in the United States (I believe that includes child molestors and communists), and relatively few Americans would vote for an open unbeliver. Sadly, not only must you be a Christian, you have to be the right kind. Americans are most certainly not firm believers in separation of church and state, not on the whole. To most, it seems to mean "the state leaves Christians alone, but it has to do what we tell it to and that can be separate enough."

    Damn, now I really wish I could find that bit where some dewey-eyed preacher referred to separation of church and state as a "one way wall." It perfectly captures the sentiment I'm trying to describe.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Dumbledore is definitely more powerful than Gandalf.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Simply put: I can't find a Christian thing about the man, and just as well.
    I can find all manner of things. I guess we see what we look for.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Dumbledore is definitely more powerful than Gandalf.
    are you kidding, Dumbledore is a mere mortal, Gandalf is a Maia, and was under the tutelage of Manw before he went to Middle Earth, as well as wielding Narya, the Ring of Fire, Gandalf could kick Dumbledores arse with one toe.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    are you kidding, Dumbledore is a mere mortal, Gandalf is a Maia, and was under the tutelage of Manw before he went to Middle Earth, as well as wielding Narya, the Ring of Fire, Gandalf could kick Dumbledores arse with one toe.
    And what did he do with that amazng power? He cast a stupid light spell at the dragons in return of the king. Like...wow.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And what did he do with that amazng power? He cast a stupid light spell at the dragons in return of the king. Like...wow.
    You need to read the books, he killed a Balrog, one of the most powerful creatures in Middle Earth, a spawn of Morgoth, he took all power from Saruman, who was more than his equal in power, and defeated the Witch King, Saurons most powerful liutenant.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    The underlying truth in all of this - 42 pages into this thread - is that people simply do not trust Obama at this point, and they have no idea who he even is.

    Notice how we are seeing less and less of him as time passes.

    He doesn't even seem that interested in being President anymore.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The underlying truth in all of this - 42 pages into this thread - is that people simply do not trust Obama at this point, and they have no idea who he even is.

    Notice how we are seeing less and less of him as time passes.

    He doesn't even seem that interested in being President anymore.
    yep, nothing like avoiding the media to show how much of a bad president you are
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The underlying truth in all of this - 42 pages into this thread - is that people simply do not trust Obama at this point, and they have no idea who he even is.

    Notice how we are seeing less and less of him as time passes.

    He doesn't even seem that interested in being President anymore.
    Ok, fine... I don't trust him either... but this whole nonsense about his religion is almost as absurd as the birther nonsense...'
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