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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The simple fact is that Grahams comments were 100% accurate. He WAS born to a Muslim faith...by the fathers bloodline...and then Graham goes on to SAY...right there...that Obama himself has renounced the Muslim faith and embraced Christianity...a claim which Graham SUPPORTED!

    But the idiotic kneejerk liberal left has but ONE response any time The One is involved...

    Pathetic
    But it's not a kneejerk reaction. It's dispelling the negative connotation that comes from Rev. Graham's pronouncement linking the President's birth-right lineage to the Muslim faith which in the minds of many is closely linked to radical Muslims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    "Once a Muslim, always a Muslim!"

    No matter what the President says, it has been firmly planted in the minds of many that he is a Muslim. And in many of those minds, Muslim = radicalism = extremists = terrorist!
    That's what's so dangerous about the Rev.'s lack of full, unequivacal support here. He may have stated historical fact where lineage within the Muslim faith is concerned, but he didn't do a thing to tone down the fears most have concerning the apparent false link between President Obama and radical Muslims. As a fellow Christian, I'd be wrong for not coming to the President's defense here.

    Hate his policies if you must, but until his conduct betrays his Christian faith which I say there is no evidence of that to date, I don't think we can say the man's choosen religious faith is anything other than what he claims it to be - Christianity.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But it's not a kneejerk reaction. It's dispelling the negative connotation that comes from Rev. Graham's pronouncement linking the President's birth-right lineage to the Muslim faith which in the minds of many is closely linked to radical Muslims.
    That's what's so dangerous about the Rev.'s lack of full, unequivacal support here. He may have stated historical fact where lineage within the Muslim faith is concerned, but he didn't do a thing to tone down the fears most have concerning the apparent false link between President Obama and radical Muslims. As a fellow Christian, I'd be wrong for not coming to the President's defense here.
    Hate his policies if you must, but until his conduct betrays his Christian faith which I say there is no evidence of that to date, I don't think we can say the man's choosen religious faith is anything other than what he claims it to be - Christianity.
    The 'kneejerk' response is to bleat the name of Fox News in response to any and everything that comes out with regard to 'the one'.

    The simple fact of the matter is Graham stated quite clearly...He believes Obama is a declared Christian and therfore...IS a Christian. What OTHERS may or may not believe about the muslim faith is immaterial.

    Obama is not a Christian....or a Muslim...he is a "whatever gets me your vote".

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    You are entitled to your opinion. However, I am curious what religious faith do you believe Reagon, Clinton or both/either Bush belonged to and, in your opinion, were any of them claiming such in order to gain "your vote"?

    And for the record, I'm not blasting FoxNews on this issue at all. I saw Rev. F. Graham make his comments on CNN.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 08-23-10 at 03:19 PM.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You are entitled to your opinion. However, I am curious what religious faith do you believe Reagon, Clinton or both/either Bush belonged to and, in your opinion, were any of them claiming such in order to gain "your vote"?

    And for the record, I'm not blasting FoxNews on this issue at all. I saw Rev. F. Graham make his comments on CNN.
    Obviously my response wasnt TO you regarding the Fox News comment.

    I think if you look at how people live their lives BEFORE they are in the public eye and how they live their faith you get a good general feel of what they really are. MOST politicians 'find God' right before an election...pandering to congregations for votes.

    Obama...well...he sat in a hate filled race mongers church for 20 years and denied hearing any of it. I believe him of of course...I'll take him at his word. But only because I doubt he was paying much attention. OR...he is lying and he was full on engaged...you choose...hell...I dont care.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    We don't pray to saints, we ask them to "intercede", or pray, on our behalf. We also ask friends to do the same. What is the difference.

    If you don't care to fix your own ignorance of Catholicism, don't come on here and spout it out as if it were pure unadulterated fact...
    Here is the problem I have with Catholics asking the dead to intercede on their behalf. Only Christ rose from the dead (Maybe Enoch did too). Everybody else, Mary and the Saints included, sleep until the time of the end of days. So, basically, what is happening is that Catholics are asking dead people to intercede for them, which can't happen because they are..... uh..... dead.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You are entitled to your opinion. However, I am curious what religious faith do you believe Reagon, Clinton or both/either Bush belonged to and, in your opinion, were any of them claiming such in order to gain "your vote"?

    And for the record, I'm not blasting FoxNews on this issue at all. I saw Rev. F. Graham make his comments on CNN.
    I was wondering exactly that, myself. And if everybody thinks that ALL politicians lie about anything just to get elected well then Obama is just like the rest. Why are they trying to make it into some big deal?

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I was wondering exactly that, myself. And if everybody thinks that ALL politicians lie about anything just to get elected well then Obama is just like the rest. Why are they trying to make it into some big deal?
    i'm just amazed that we are still talking about obama's heritage. rush et al sure are doing a great job. disgusting.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I was wondering exactly that, myself. And if everybody thinks that ALL politicians lie about anything just to get elected well then Obama is just like the rest. Why are they trying to make it into some big deal?

    Ahhhhh....But all the hype was that he was different. He was the one to bring a change wasn't he? Isn't that what all the fainting was about? Now he is the same as all the rest....Yeah, I hear ya.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm just amazed that we are still talking about obama's heritage. rush et al sure are doing a great job. disgusting.

    Yeah, let's just focus on kitty cats, and flowers.....That's all we need, some good distractions.


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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm just amazed that we are still talking about obama's heritage. rush et al sure are doing a great job. disgusting.
    It's easier for the hoi polloi to grasp than policy, I guess.

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