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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Belonging to a certain religion isn't something that happens when you are born, it's something that you decide for yourself. You can't be born Muslim, just like you can't be born Christian. There isn't a gene that decides your religion for you.
    You need to read up on the faith of Islam. Sons are born into the faith by their fathers. Its in the Qur'an, not something you can judge for yourself. As Graham said, he's renounced that faith for Christianity but it doesn't change the facts.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    It doesn't matter what he was born. I was born and baptized Catholic but I am not a Catholic. I don't practice the religion, I don't go to Church, I dislike the Pope, and I am pretty much as far from being Christian as one can get.
    Of course it matters. The faith is what sets the belief, not an outsider looking in.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Even if this is 100% true, what's the point in talking about it? Exactly what is he hoping to accomplish?
    Sounded like to me he was clarifying the confusion explaining the history, the faith of Islam, and the choice Obama made to become a Christian.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Even if this is 100% true, what's the point in talking about it? Exactly what is he hoping to accomplish?
    I didn't even realize he was "one of the nation's most prominent evangelical leaders". I know his dad was THE, but to me he's just been hanging off the name for forever.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Very well said by the Reverand
    It's amazing to me how so many Christians seem to claim authoritive knowledge over Islam and yet know so little about their own religion.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's amazing to me how so many Christians seem to claim authoritive knowledge over Islam and yet know so little about their own religion.
    Empty words. If you are going to make a statement like that be ready to support it with factual backing.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    That means Islam would have accepted him as one of their own, but that doesn't mean he ever at any point considered himself Muslim.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You need to read up on the faith of Islam. Sons are born into the faith by their fathers. Its in the Qur'an, not something you can judge for yourself. As Graham said, he's renounced that faith for Christianity but it doesn't change the facts.
    So that means I can write a book, say everyone with a name that starts with a J belongs to my religion, and that means that everyone who has the letter J belongs to my religion until they denounce it?
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    So that means I can write a book, say everyone with a name that starts with a J belongs to my religion, and that means that everyone who has the letter J belongs to my religion until they denounce it?
    Sure, but you'll have to wait 1300-1400 years, give or take.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Sure, but you'll have to wait 1300-1400 years, give or take.
    Quickly, someone make me a time machine. I want to be a god worshipped by all those who have J as the first letter of their name.
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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