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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And if you read the OP you'd see Rev. Graham calls Obama a Christian, but that would require reading past the title of the thread.
    But he doesn't stand firmly in that conviction does he? That, to me, is the problem. Just when you think he slammed that door closed, he re-opens it with his comment, "I cannot say that he hasn't (renounced Islam). So I just have to believe that the president is what he has said (that he is a Christain)," Graham continued, adding that "the Islamic world sees the president as one of theirs."

    What a cop out! Rev. F. Graham could have closed the door on this issue by not adding the qualifier, "the Islamic world sees the president as one of theirs." Had he just ended "...the president is what he has said"...that he is a Christian, the issue would be moot.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ummm....Sorry Gill...Look again....




    Wiki not good enough? Hell, even the Christian bashing Jon Meacham in his Newsweek column places the number at 76%




    And Meacham is no fan of Christians, or Christianity I assure you. So where are you getting your information from Gill?


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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And if you read the OP you'd see Rev. Graham calls Obama a Christian, but that would require reading past the title of the thread.
    Actually, if you read the OP, you see he says more than that.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But he doesn't stand firmly in that conviction does he? That, to me, is the problem. Just when you think he slammed that door closed, he re-opens it with his comment, "I have to take him at his word." What a cop out!
    Exactly, that's what I referenced. He SAYS - yeah? Really? Wow. Is this that 'damning with faint praise' I've heard so much about?

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    "Do you believe Pres. Obama is a Christian?"
    No.


    What religion do you believe the President as the man he is today worships?
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    We're closing in on 200 posts and nobody has yet stated why Obama's religion matters.


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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    We're closing in on 200 posts and nobody has yet stated why Obama's religion matters.

    For the same reason Obama bowing to some one matters.

    For the same reason Michelle Obama's shoes matter.

    For the same reason Obama taking his wife on a date mattered.

    For the same reason Obama playing golf matters.

    For the same reason Obama using a teleprompter matters.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But he doesn't stand firmly in that conviction does he? That, to me, is the problem. Just when you think he slammed that door closed, he re-opens it with his comment, "I cannot say that he hasn't (renounced Islam). So I just have to believe that the president is what he has said (that he is a Christain)," Graham continued, adding that "the Islamic world sees the president as one of theirs."

    What a cop out! Rev. F. Graham could have closed the door on this issue by not adding the qualifier, "the Islamic world sees the president as one of theirs." Had he just ended "...the president is what he has said"...that he is a Christian, the issue would be moot.
    Oh my, he didn't jump all on Obama with FERVOR AS DEMANDED by his Followers.

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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh my, he didn't jump all on Obama with FERVOR AS DEMANDED by his Followers.

    /Yawn
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh my, he didn't jump all on Obama with FERVOR AS DEMANDED by his Followers.

    /Yawn
    If by the above you mean he didn't stand firm behind the President and declare unequavicably that he is a Christian, then you are correct. You see, in your hast to defend Rev. F. Graham, you ignore the larger issue here which even you said the Rev. danced around...

    "Once a Muslim, always a Muslim!"

    No matter what the President says, it has been firmly planted in the minds of many that he is a Muslim. And in many of those minds, Muslim = radicalism = extremists = terrorist!

    So, I'll ask you again, what do you believe concerning the President's religious faith? Is he a Christian as he has publically announced on several occasions or is he a Muslim no matter what he says publically or privately?

    It's a simple question requiring a simple answer.

    EDIT: Thank you, jmac. Atleast you're being honest. Of course, now I'd like to know why you believe that? What actions has the President taken to bring about doubt on his religious preference and/or his religious convictions?
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 08-23-10 at 01:48 PM.

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