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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

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    But we don't pray to Mary... sorry, I am not going to let that slide...
    What are hail marys?
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    What are hail marys?
    Hail Mary
    Full of Grace
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    Blessed art thou among women
    and Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus
    Holy Mary, Mother of God
    Pray for us sinners
    Now and at the hour of our death,
    AMEN!

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    Hmm... when we say the Hail Mary, we are thanking her for following God's plan and asking her to pray on our behalf to God,.. just as a Protestant may ask a friend to pray on their behalf...
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Hail Mary
    Full of Grace
    The Lord is With Thee
    Blessed art thou among women
    and Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus
    Holy Mary, Mother of God
    Pray for us sinners
    Now and at the hour of our death,
    AMEN!

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    Hmm... when we say the Hail Mary, we are thanking her for following God's plan and asking her to pray on our behalf to God,.. just as a Protestant may ask a friend to pray on their behalf...
    Why not pray to God himself? And why would mary have any special pull? I've never understood Mary veneration
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Why not pray to God himself? And why would mary have any special pull? I've never understood Mary veneration
    well God thinks she has special pull.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Why not pray to God himself? And why would mary have any special pull? I've never understood Mary veneration
    We believe any and all of the Saints are in Heaven and thus have contact with God. Similar to our Litany of the Saints. Don't you ask your friends to pray for you? And BTW, we DO pray directly to God. Asking others to pray for us does not change that fact... And as for Mary Veneration, are you going to deny her special place in the Salvation story?
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Catholics don't pray directly to God - they believe it is unacceptable/not permitted/etc.

    The belief that you can/should pray directly to God is purely a non-Catholic belief.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Catholics don't pray directly to God - they believe it is unacceptable/not permitted/etc.

    The belief that you can/should pray directly to God is purely a non-Catholic belief.
    Where did you get that piece of horse crap?
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Where did you get that piece of horse crap?
    I don't actually care enough to read up and learn about whether I'm wrong or not. . . but I do know that praying to saints is called 'intercession' or something like that.
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't actually care enough to read up and learn about whether I'm wrong or not. . . but I do know that praying to saints is called 'intercession' or something like that.
    We don't pray to saints, we ask them to "intercede", or pray, on our behalf. We also ask friends to do the same. What is the difference.

    If you don't care to fix your own ignorance of Catholicism, don't come on here and spout it out as if it were pure unadulterated fact...
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    Re: The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    No, he did NOT go to an Islamic school in Indonesia. He spent three years at a Catholic school and one year at a public school (which is secular).
    Obama doesn't agree with you. From Dreams From My Father:

    In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended.

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