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    Surge in Britons exported for trial

    The number of people in Britain seized under the controversial "no-evidence-needed" European Arrest Warrant rose by more than 50 per cent last year, figures obtained by The Sunday Telegraph show.


    Foreign prosecutors do not have to present evidence to the British courts, just demand the person be "surrendered".
    It can be revealed that a middle-aged motorist from Kent spent weeks in a British prison after Polish prosecutors sought his extradition on charges of possessing a forged car insurance certificate.
    Patrick Reece-Edwards, 49, was stopped at a Polish border crossing. After questioning, he was allowed to drive off, but months later was seized at his home in Dartford under a European Arrest Warrant.
    "He was kept in custody in Britain for weeks,” said his solicitor, Stephen Fidler. “After he was extradited to Poland, matters were resolved by payment of an administrative penalty with no criminal record.”
    Another of Mr Fidler’s clients is fighting extradition to Romania after being convicted there of possessing a small quantity of cannabis. He is in his third month in a British prison and is likely to be there at least a further two months before his appeal against the European Arrest Warrant is heard. “Aside from the disproportionality of these cases, the costs to the British authorities are huge,” said Mr Fidler. “Those resources should go towards tackling serious crime in the UK, not minor crime abroad.”
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    Re: Surge in Britons exported for trial

    the problem with Europe is that you have lots of countries packed into an area only slightly larger than my country, you can understand the logic behind it, that by the time they get a warrant, the person could be in another country, which'd make things more difficult, but really, it's bull****. There's a lot to be said for not having any countries on the same landmass as you.
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    Re: Surge in Britons exported for trial

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    the problem with Europe is that you have lots of countries packed into an area only slightly larger than my country, you can understand the logic behind it, that by the time they get a warrant, the person could be in another country, which'd make things more difficult, but really, it's bull****. There's a lot to be said for not having any countries on the same landmass as you.
    Of course its bull****. The country where the alleged offense took place should have to have proof in order to issue a warrant for the alleged offender and then present that warrant to the country the alleged offender fled to. No one should be extradited on a baseless warrant.
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    Britons working in the UK can be extradited to face charges under US law in the USA at a low level of proof. This is not reciprocal. Thank you Tony Bliar.
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    Article is another hit piece by anti-EU British media. First off, a person arrested under EAW is put before a British judge before being extradited. Secondly you can only take out an EAW if the punishment of the crime exceeds 12 months or if the person is already convicted, if the punishment is a minimum of 4 months in prison. I am not saying that the system can not be abused by other countries or the UK, I would wager the UK abuses it too. However it is up to the judge to make sure that the rules are not being abused/broken before the guy was extradited. Something is not kosher in the Telegraph story, which does not surprise me. Funny how the newspaper does not ask the question why so many countries are demanding extradition of Brits..... I know why... same reason that if I go into a bar in Spain I can order, and pay later.. where as a Brit has to pay up front.
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    Re: Surge in Britons exported for trial

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Article is another hit piece by anti-EU British media. First off, a person arrested under EAW is put before a British judge before being extradited. Secondly you can only take out an EAW if the punishment of the crime exceeds 12 months or if the person is already convicted, if the punishment is a minimum of 4 months in prison. I am not saying that the system can not be abused by other countries or the UK, I would wager the UK abuses it too. However it is up to the judge to make sure that the rules are not being abused/broken before the guy was extradited. Something is not kosher in the Telegraph story, which does not surprise me. Funny how the newspaper does not ask the question why so many countries are demanding extradition of Brits..... I know why... same reason that if I go into a bar in Spain I can order, and pay later.. where as a Brit has to pay up front.


    So Brits are theives?
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    Re: Surge in Britons exported for trial

    And people say the EU is something good


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    Re: Surge in Britons exported for trial

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So Brits are theives?
    Not all, far from it. But sadly businesses here, both non British and British have seen a rise in Brits skipping out on the bill or debt or outright stealing, and as a result practices have been changed when it comes to Brits. The worst example I have seen is standing in line at the check out counter at a supermarket where lots of Brits come. The British woman ahead of me had to open her purse but the Finnish woman behind me (nice looking too!) did not. At a later date I asked the girl at the counter why, and she bluntly said because the woman was British and they had seen a rise in Brits stealing.
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    Re: Surge in Britons exported for trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And people say the EU is something good
    Would you rather have the UK be a haven for criminals? Or how about UK criminals hiding out in Europe with no threat of extradition?
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