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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    What's funny is that drilling deepwater wells wouldn't really be necessary if the coastal states would get over their squeamishness regarding drilling closer in to shore.
    What part of "we don't want your wells on our coast" do you not get? And no, drilling in deepwater isn't "necessary." It's a choice, just like many other choices.

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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So you don't have any evidence to back up your claims. Gotcha.
    What the **** do you think the article was if not evidence?
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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What part of "we don't want your wells on our coast" do you not get? And no, drilling in deepwater isn't "necessary." It's a choice, just like many other choices.
    It all boils down to just how much you want to pay per gallon of gas, I guess.

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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    A better analogy is that I don't like gambling with my primary source of income. Saving 23,000 jobs in the short term is not worth the risk of losing millions of jobs, potentially for decades in the future. It's a simple cost benefit analysis, which you'd think somebody who purports to understand the economics would be able to wrap their head around.
    And for someone who's acting snarky about a cost-benefit analysis, you've ignored a pretty fundamental factor.

    The benefit of drilling is either > or < ((the cost of another disaster)*(the probability that this drilling at issue will cause another disaster))

    Unless you have an idea of how much of a difference this moratorium would make, you can't actually conduct a cost-benefit analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What part of "we don't want your wells on our coast" do you not get?
    The last time you said this, I provided you with a poll showing that the vast majority of people in your state supported drilling.
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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    What the **** do you think the article was if not evidence?
    Let me spell it out for you more carefully, since you are being deliberately obtuse in the matter. The article makes no reference to the methodology of the study, and considering that it took into account the entire oil industry in both the United States and Mexico it cannot serve as evidence of the oil industry being a bigger source of revenue than tourism for the Gulf Coast states. Show me the study itself, and/or a breakdown of the oil and tourism revenues for the Gulf Coast of the USA and I will happily concede that oil produces more revenue than tourism. But until then (I'll say it slowly) you... have... no... evidence.

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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It all boils down to just how much you want to pay per gallon of gas, I guess.
    I don't drive that much, so I'm fine with paying more. I think we should be paying the actual cost of gasoline, personally, rather than having the hidden pricetag that flows through foreign wars, etc. We might have very different fuel consumption habits if we did, and get over our unhealthy addiction to oil.

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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The last time you said this, I provided you with a poll showing that the vast majority of people in your state supported drilling.
    Yes, but that study predated the BP issue, dinnit?

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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The benefit of drilling is either > or < ((the cost of another disaster)*(the probability that this drilling at issue will cause another disaster))
    Well, you're almost right. A true cost benefit analysis would look a little more like this:
    [The benefit of drilling (23K jobs)] < [((Cost of another disaster, i.e. (millions of lost jobs + billions of lost tourism)) * the likelihood of the disaster) + the cost to tourism from negative public perception if the moratorium is prematurely lifted]

    It's pretty simple, really. Look, it's sad that 23k people will lose their jobs in the oil industry, but that pales in comparison to the damage that oil spill could have on the tourism industry if there is another spill, and moreover if the public perception is that nothing is being done about it. The Gulf Coast has an image to rehabilitate here (not to mention an ecosystem).
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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Florida, and I don't want even a one in a million chance of any more oil clotting up my beautiful white sand beaches.
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    Re: Gov't: 23K workers affected by Gulf oil drill ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Your one vote has been registered.
    I might only have one vote, but thankfully I'm not alone. On behalf of the majority of Floridians who share my view, we thank you for your kind support.

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