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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    It makes more sense to discredit him as an individual as if he dies someone else just takes his place. If you discredit him he may loose all credibility and his information an asserations won't be taken seriously.
    How would it "discredit" him?
    It's not about "his assertions".
    He has no particular credibility as a person.
    It's the fact that he gets hold of and releases actual documents.
    It's not like everybody's just been taking his word for everything, because he's got such a sterling reputation.
    I didn't even know, or particularly care, who he was.
    When documents are leaked, I'm not worried about whether the person who leaked them has once been accused- or convicted- of sexual harassment.
    I'm looking at the documents themselves to gauge their veracity.
    When the pentagon and the US government themselves admit the documents are legitimate and valid, I'm certainly not going to be like, "Oh, but the guy who leaked them was once accused of sexual harassment. So I think I'll just forgive the government for whatever transgressions are exposed in these documents, no matter how incriminating they are."

    Silly, silly.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    I'm a bit skeptical on these charges, considering the target. Still, innocent until proven guilty (or whatever they have in the Swedish justice system.)
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    This was my thought. Let's face it, when he is arrested, there will be a trial, and he will have a chance to clear his name. That is what trials are for. It's a serious charge and has to be taken seriously.
    Uh, the entire point is that he won't have a chance to clear his name, if this is false. If this is false the courts would be in on it...
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Uh, the entire point is that he won't have a chance to clear his name, if this is false. If this is false the courts would be in on it...
    Why wouldn't he?
    He'll have a chance to retain an attorney and defend himself in court, the same as anyone else.
    It's not like the charge is terrorism, and they're throwing him in Guantánamo.

    Let me ask you this: because Julian Assange leaked these documents, do you think he should be allowed to get away with rape?
    Do you think he should be immune from ever having rape charges brought against him, no matter what he does?
    Because I don't think so.
    But it appears he does.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Why wouldn't he?
    He'll have a chance to retain an attorney and defend himself in court, the same as anyone else.
    Because generally when a government arrests one on trumped up charges the entire point is that they are going to be done away with. If these charges are indeed false and the authorities are attempting to silence him, then anything he says in the court room doesn't really matter as the judges would be in on it.

    Let me ask you this: because Julian Assange leaked these documents, do you think he should be allowed to get away with rape?
    Do you think he should be immune from ever having rape charges brought against him, no matter what he does?
    Because I don't think so.
    But it appears he does.
    No, I've very clearly qualified my statements by saying that if these charges are false.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Uh, the entire point is that he won't have a chance to clear his name, if this is false. If this is false the courts would be in on it...
    And now we enter the realm of conspiracy theories. If every one is in on it, then anything could be true, and Bush really could have been complicit in 9/11, and Obama really is a Nigerian Muslim, and the moon landing really was fake, and...
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    BBC News - Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Convenient? Or possible? Well, when the judge decides to extradite him to the US, we'll know.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    I think the guy is a sniveling little snake, but this "rape" accusation seems highly suspicious to me.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    BBC News - Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Convenient? Or possible? Well, when the judge decides to extradite him to the US, we'll know.
    It would be a very clever way to get him in the states, to charge him with other crimes while he's here.
    Not saying that's the case but you know.

    Put yourself this situation for a minute.
    So if you knew the charges aren't true but that you could face other charges in relation to Wikileaks, what you do?
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape

    Perhaps it's just my personal bias, but the idea of sexual misconduct on the part of youngish, affluent men never strikes me as unlikely or far-fetched.

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