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    Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

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    MANAMA, Bahrain - The imam behind a controversial plan to build a mosque near the Manhattan site of the Sept. 11 attacks, refused to discuss the political firestorm yesterday, but his wife in New York said organizers are sticking with their plans.

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is on the first leg of a 15-day Mideast tour funded by the U.S. State Department, and said yesterday in Bahrain that he preferred to speak about shared concerns that radical religious views pose to security in both the West and the Muslim world.

    “This issue of extremism is something that has been a national security issue - not only for the United States, but also for many countries and nations in the Muslim world,” Rauf said. “This is why this particular trip has a great importance, because all countries in the Muslim world - as well as the Western world - are facing this . . . major security challenge.”

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Wow a muslim extremist jihadist terrorist allowing his woman to speak for him... .. wait a minute that is impossible if he was a muslim extremist jihadist terrorist..
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Wow a muslim extremist jihadist terrorist allowing his woman to speak for him... .. wait a minute that is impossible if he was a muslim extremist jihadist terrorist..
    I'll bet you one million dollars she made this statement while wearing a Hijab or a Burqa.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I'll bet you one million dollars she made this statement while wearing a Hijab or a Burqa.
    So what if she is (or isn't) dressed in her cuitural preference? What the Hell is wrong with that? Who died and appointed you fashion cop? Anyone telling you how to dresss?

    Gawd, hypocrites and bigots make me wanna puke.

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    From the article: "In Bahrain, Rauf said he has been working on a way to “Americanize Islam.”

    I think they might have it backwards.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    So what if she is (or isn't) dressed in her cuitural preference? What the Hell is wrong with that? Who died and appointed you fashion cop? Anyone telling you how to dresss?

    Gawd, hypocrites and bigots make me wanna puke.
    The Hihab and the Burqa are both signs of the subservient roll of women within Islam.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Ground Zero Mosque Thread Count:

    Seriously, why do we need to continue talking about this?

    Most NOT ALL people are against this mosque because they believe most of Islam represents Terror. If that's the case, the non-practising muslim somali-Canadian girl I've gone on a couple of dates with is just biding her time til she can cut my head off in my own apartment /facepalm

    You've tried to paint the Imam as a radical... but the far right tries to paint ANYONE they don't like as a radical, including the president, forgive me if it seems a little disengenious.

    You've tried to call it a "Victory Mosque" Or "Mosque of Conquest" some have even gone as far as to call it "A base of operations for Jihadists". It is ONLY that way if you think most Islam means terror. This thing will not Tower over Ground Zero.

    You've tried to claim for your own political expediency that the president "Endorses the mosque". You pull up the entire transcript of his original speech and you show me EXACTLY where he endorsed it, no, he said what the conciense of America the "Land of the free" should be saying, that

    "They have the right, to build a place of worship, just like everybody else"

    What is wrong with that statement? But you'll say BUT NO MR President, we KNOW THAT! But you should be as bigoted and fearful as we are!

    I don't agree with any religion for that matter, but this has gone far beyond just the ground zero mosque, people are opposing it by citing how terrible Islam is... so if all you say is correct then you must be in favour of all muslims being deported? I mean surely ANY mosque could be a base of operations for jihadists? Not just one at ground zero?

    Yes maybe some Muslims want Sharia Law, there might be some christains who want a similar thing imposed... but they have the right to those views, but if they ever tried to impose it on the rest of the country, I'd be the first to stand up and stop them. But until such time, they can have those backward views if they wish... it is not a reason to deny them what is theirs.

    Mosques have begun being opposed across the country, you watch a single politician run on an Anti-Islamic platform, and we're gonna start having problems.

    As I have said before, theirs a fine line between Prejudice, Discrimination and finally persecution.

    One day, maybe it'll take 10 years, but you COULD find yourself on the other side of that line... it isn't hard.

    And don't tell me "Oh well they persecute christains in Saudi Arabia" OK! So your answer is to be just like them to show how free and fair you are? Yep that makes sense.

    I retire from these ****ing threads. It's a brickwall debate.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post


    You've tried to paint the Imam as a radical... but the far right tries to paint ANYONE they don't like as a radical, including the president, forgive me if it seems a little disengenious.

    Speaking of disingenuous, here is an Imam who supports sharia law, and here you are trying to frame those who might oppose such as being some sort of radical right winger.

    Heaven help us if we have actually arrived at point where a person cannot oppose the brutality of Sharia without being accused of being a racist or a fear monger or a ...gasp ....a "right winger" for doing so.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Hihab and the Burqa are both signs of the subservient roll of women within Islam.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    From the article: "In Bahrain, Rauf said he has been working on a way to “Americanize Islam.”

    I think they might have it backwards.
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    Don't get so disproportionately scared about Muslims who 'think the world would be better if it was all Muslim'; wouldn't many Christians believe the same about Christianity? And whatever you do, don't tell all Muslims 'This is what you believe, and you're violent because of it'; quite apart from the fact that they're better qualified than you are to know what they personally believe, imagine what would happen if they all suddenly decided you were right!
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post

    You've tried to paint the Imam as a radical... but the far right tries to paint ANYONE they don't like as a radical, including the president, forgive me if it seems a little disengenious.
    The man labeled the U.S. an accessory to 9-11 and OBL as made in the USA less than 3 weeks after the attacks, he has called for a Sharia compliant U.S., and refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, and now he wants to build a victory Mosque at Ground Zero. Sounds pretty radical to me.

    You've tried to call the it a "Victory Mosque" Or "Mosque of Conquest" some have ever one as far as to call it "A base of operations for Jihadists". It is ONLY that way if you think most Islam means terror. This thing will not Tower over Ground Zero.
    No it's that way because that's what it is, there is no other reason to build the Mosque there at that specific location, there is no giant Muslim community in pressing need of more space to pray, in fact they already have 2 Mosques less than 12 blocks away. This would be like building an Orthodox Cathedral at Srebrenica, are all Christians responsible for the genocide of Muslims at Srebrenica? No but you would certainly have to question the motivations behind the specific people who wished to build an Orthodox Cathedral there.

    You've tried to claim for your own political expediency that the president "Endorses the mosque". You pull up the entire transcript of his original speech and you show me EXACTLY where he endorsed it, no he said what the conciense of America the "Land of the free" should be saying, that
    Well he endoresed their right to build the Mosque at a dinner at which two Islamist were present one of which is the President of an organization listed as an unindicted terrorist financing co-conspirator. But no he has not actually endorsed the building of the Mosque itself only their right to do so.


    Yes maybe some Muslims want Sharia Law,
    This Imam wants Sharia law.

    there might be some christains who want a similar thing imposed...
    Which mainstream Christian sects actively promote the criminilization of Apostasy and Homosexuality?

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