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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

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    Saying that homosexuality should be discouraged =/= calling for the criminalization of homosexuality and it is certainly does not equate to calling for the death, imprisonment, and/or beating of homosexuals for being homosexual. Now which mainstream Christian sect advocates the criminalization of homosexuality? As it stands this is a false analogy but nice try though.
    There's a biiiiiig difference between the policy-setters in a country governed by fundamentalist Islam and the beliefs of every-day Muslims in a comparatively liberal country such as the US. That's what the report showed. Bear in mind that if 61% of Muslims say 'homosexuality should be discouraged by society', that means that 39% disagree. That's a guaranteed disagreement with the 'mainstream sects', from at least 400,000 Muslims in the US (depending on which estimate you use; it could be much higher).

    Oh and this Imam is not a "secret fundamentalist" he is an overt Islamist who supports a Sharia compliant U.S. in which secular laws should not contradict the Koran or the Hadiths, his only problem with Sharia is the stringent penal code.
    Do you have any evidence that it will be compulsory to agree with the Imams views in order to worship at the mosque, or to benefit from the community centre?
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Since the city has approved it, we are now seeing people try to not get it built by withholding labor
    Well if this is the only recourse than so be it, and it will be. It's not about the constitution but more about location, location, location.
    Last edited by deltabtry; 08-21-10 at 04:11 PM.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Well if this is the only recourse than so be it, and it will be. It's not about the constitution but more about location, location, location.
    You may be in violation of title 2 of the CRA.

    Location my ass, there is a mosque 5 blocks away from the WTC site.
    Should that be torn down?
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Worth a listen.


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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's my personal perception of this event.
    Logical fallacy or not.

    Since the city has approved it, we are now seeing people try to not get it built by withholding labor.
    That's not a violation of the Constitution or the rights of the organization behind the Mosque in any way, to compel the individual to build something which they did not wish to build would be a violation of their right of self ownership.

    The individual is entitled to the right of self ownership and thus entitled to exclusive rights to use and control over said body and any capital, goods, or services produced through the labour of said body. The solution to not getting this Mosque built is not having the state step in and force them to stop but rather is to our freedom of speech simply inform the people to what is going on and hope that the individuals refuse to enter into contractual agreements to build the Mosque. But now something tells me that all of these leftists who have this newfound love of property rights and religious freedom will attempt to use the state to coerce the people into entering into involuntary contractual agreements to build the Mosque possibly by putting pressure on the Unions and in so doing violate the right of self ownership upon which all property rights are based.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You may be in violation of title 2 of the CRA.

    Location my ass, there is a mosque 5 blocks away from the WTC site.
    Should that be torn down?
    Right away, I shall prepare the B-2...

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You may be in violation of title 2 of the CRA.

    Location my ass, there is a mosque 5 blocks away from the WTC site.
    Should that be torn down?
    Gee not such a big proponent of property rights are you now? What a surprise that you would wish to use the state to force the individual into involuntary contractual agreements and thus violate their right to self ownership which is the very basis of all property rights.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Gee not such a big proponent of property rights are you now? What a surprise that you would wish to use the state to force the individual into involuntary contractual agreements and thus violate their right to self ownership which is the very basis of all property rights.
    Don't care about your property rights, as per this thread and all the others.

    You have decided to engage in hyperbole and stereotyping, through out this whole discussion, spanning multiple threads.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You may be in violation of title 2 of the CRA.

    Location my ass, there is a mosque 5 blocks away from the WTC site.
    Should that be torn down?
    Not really worried about CRA violations it doesn't apply to the transportation industry, no supplies no construction. The Mosque five blocks away I don't have a problem with. BTW what are your thoughts about the Orthodox Christian Church being denied a permit to build next to what was the WTC, which BTW was there long before any Mosque. Let that church go up, and perhaps who would see a different outlook from those who oppose the mosque.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Oh and FYI this is clearly not a violation of Title 2 the labour of the individual is not a public place of accommodation.

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