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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Even if this Mosque goes ahead with this plan, good luck to them in trying to get it built. NYC is a union town and nothing is built without it. Also being in the trucking industry, good luck to them in trying to get building materials delivered. Having talk with others in my industry, most companies will not deliver to this proposed site and for those who will, the drivers themselves will most likely refuse such as myself. Also if this organization tries to have this built with non union labor, the sh*t will hit the fan and it is standing policy for most non union trucking companies NOT to cross union lines.

    Absolutely!!!!! From the Daily News today:


    A growing number of New York construction workers are vowing not to work on the mosque planned near Ground Zero.

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    Louis Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers' Association, said unions have not yet taken a "formal position" on Park51, but he understands why members would be hesitant to work there.

    "It's a very difficult dilemma for the contractors and the organized labor force because we are experiencing such high levels of unemployment," he said. "Yet at the same time, this is a very sacred sight to the union guys."

    "There were construction workers killed on 9/11 and many more who got horribly sick cleaning up Ground Zero," Coletti said. "It's very emotional."


    L.V. Spina, a Manhattan construction worker who created anti-mosque stickers that some workers are slapping on their hardhats, said he would "rather pick cans and bottles out of trash cans" than build the Islamic center near Ground Zero.

    "But if they moved it somewhere else, we would put up a prime building for these people," he said. "Hell, you could do it next to my house in Rockaway Beach, I would be fine with it. But I'm not fine with it where blood has been spilled."

    They won't build it! Hardhats vow not to work on controversial mosque near Ground Zero
    it is NOT going to get built!


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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ground Zero Mosque Thread Count:

    Seriously, why do we need to continue talking about this?

    Most NOT ALL people are against this mosque because they believe most of Islam represents Terror. If that's the case, the non-practising muslim somali-Canadian girl I've gone on a couple of dates with is just biding her time til she can cut my head off in my own apartment /facepalm

    You've tried to paint the Imam as a radical... but the far right tries to paint ANYONE they don't like as a radical, including the president, forgive me if it seems a little disengenious.

    You've tried to call it a "Victory Mosque" Or "Mosque of Conquest" some have even gone as far as to call it "A base of operations for Jihadists". It is ONLY that way if you think most Islam means terror. This thing will not Tower over Ground Zero.

    You've tried to claim for your own political expediency that the president "Endorses the mosque". You pull up the entire transcript of his original speech and you show me EXACTLY where he endorsed it, no, he said what the conciense of America the "Land of the free" should be saying, that

    "They have the right, to build a place of worship, just like everybody else"

    What is wrong with that statement? But you'll say BUT NO MR President, we KNOW THAT! But you should be as bigoted and fearful as we are!

    I don't agree with any religion for that matter, but this has gone far beyond just the ground zero mosque, people are opposing it by citing how terrible Islam is... so if all you say is correct then you must be in favour of all muslims being deported? I mean surely ANY mosque could be a base of operations for jihadists? Not just one at ground zero?

    Yes maybe some Muslims want Sharia Law, there might be some christains who want a similar thing imposed... but they have the right to those views, but if they ever tried to impose it on the rest of the country, I'd be the first to stand up and stop them. But until such time, they can have those backward views if they wish... it is not a reason to deny them what is theirs.

    Mosques have begun being opposed across the country, you watch a single politician run on an Anti-Islamic platform, and we're gonna start having problems.

    As I have said before, theirs a fine line between Prejudice, Discrimination and finally persecution.

    One day, maybe it'll take 10 years, but you COULD find yourself on the other side of that line... it isn't hard.

    And don't tell me "Oh well they persecute christains in Saudi Arabia" OK! So your answer is to be just like them to show how free and fair you are? Yep that makes sense.

    I retire from these ****ing threads. It's a brickwall debate.

    This is just another one of those wedge issues that we see every election season. In the past it was the 10 Commandments, flag burning, or gay marriage. It does a disservice to political discourse in this country. It's sad that there are some people in Oklahoma are going to vote based on a NY City issue.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    This is just another one of those wedge issues that we see every election season. In the past it was the 10 Commandments, flag burning, or gay marriage. It does a disservice to political discourse in this country. It's sad that there are some people in Oklahoma are going to vote based on a NY City issue.
    Why did you pick Oklahoma?...I betcha there will be some in Guam who will do the same.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    This is just another one of those wedge issues that we see every election season. In the past it was the 10 Commandments, flag burning, or gay marriage. It does a disservice to political discourse in this country. It's sad that there are some people in Oklahoma are going to vote based on a NY City issue.

    Wedge Issue? How can you wedge an issue that has bi partisan opposition to it? Nah, no wedge here, just arrogant liberals that want everyone else to say the sky is green.


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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Why did you pick Oklahoma?...I betcha there will be some in Guam who will do the same.
    The media doesn't care about Guam's local elections. It cares about Congressional elections.

    Some might say that Oklahoma is the belt buckle of the bible belt. But you can substitute any state. It's not important as to which one.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wedge Issue? How can you wedge an issue that has bi partisan opposition to it? Nah, no wedge here, just arrogant liberals that want everyone else to say the sky is green.


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    There you go.
    Accusing one group of bias, when many people are for the mosque being built.

    I think it's plainly obvious that, a lot of conservatives don't like the Constitution, as written.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wedge Issue? How can you wedge an issue that has bi partisan opposition to it? Nah, no wedge here, just arrogant liberals that want everyone else to say the sky is green.


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    If it is so bipartisan, why did you feel the need to add partisan comment?
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The media doesn't care about Guam's local elections. It cares about Congressional elections.

    Some might say that Oklahoma is the belt buckle of the bible belt. But you can substitute any state. It's not important as to which one.
    Frankly you do have a point, this would have been a state issue only, except the main stream and cable media and the president have made it into a national issue.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
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    MANAMA, Bahrain - The imam behind a controversial plan to build a mosque near the Manhattan site of the Sept. 11 attacks, refused to discuss the political firestorm yesterday, but his wife in New York said organizers are sticking with their plans.

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is on the first leg of a 15-day Mideast tour funded by the U.S. State Department, and said yesterday in Bahrain that he preferred to speak about shared concerns that radical religious views pose to security in both the West and the Muslim world.

    “This issue of extremism is something that has been a national security issue - not only for the United States, but also for many countries and nations in the Muslim world,” Rauf said. “This is why this particular trip has a great importance, because all countries in the Muslim world - as well as the Western world - are facing this . . . major security challenge.”
    That's what the fringe right doesn't get. The muslim world doesn't like the extremists.

    When you put anything this Imam has said in it's proper context, he sounds pretty moderate to me.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There you go.
    Accusing one group of bias, when many people are for the mosque being built.

    I think it's plainly obvious that, a lot of conservatives don't like the Constitution, as written.
    No we support the Constitution it's this Imam who calls for a Sharia Compliant U.S. in which secular laws don't contradict the Koran or the Hadiths which would be a clear violation of the Establishment Clause.

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