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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
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    Except the Ulama in all five mainstream Schools of Islamic Fiqh (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali, and Ja'fari) have ruled through Ijma that apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, and/or premarital sex are capital and/or corporal offenses. Call me when any mainstream Christian sect starts calling for the death penalty or lashings for those non-crimes, or even calling for the criminilization of those actions.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Hihab and the Burqa are both signs of the subservient roll of women within Islam.
    Because you say so? Why should I listen to anyone that is doing nothing more trying infest others with hatred and bigotry? Save for it for your next Teabagger Rally, I'm not fooled.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Because you say so?
    What other reason is there for women to cover themselves from head to toe? Are you one of those people who makes the laughable assertion that the Burqa represents the liberation of women rather than the inverse?

    Why should I listen to anyone that is doing nothing more trying infest others with hatred and bigotry? Save for it for your next Teabagger Rally, I'm not fooled.
    Yes I'm a bigot because I'm opposed to overt symbols of gender discrimination.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Because you say so? Why should I listen to anyone that is doing nothing more trying infest others with hatred and bigotry? Save for it for your next Teabagger Rally, I'm not fooled.
    I think the word you are looking for is "infect", not "infest".


    How is the opposition to a legal system that regards half the population as chattel indicative of hatred or bigotry, though? I would think any actual liberal would oppose such obvious misogyny, and you must be full of hatred and bigotry against women, since you would oppose it, too, if not .
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Even if this Mosque goes ahead with this plan, good luck to them in trying to get it built. NYC is a union town and nothing is built without it. Also being in the trucking industry, good luck to them in trying to get building materials delivered. Having talk with others in my industry, most companies will not deliver to this proposed site and for those who will, the drivers themselves will most likely refuse such as myself. Also if this organization tries to have this built with non union labor, the sh*t will hit the fan and it is standing policy for most non union trucking companies NOT to cross union lines.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I'll bet you one million dollars she made this statement while wearing a Hijab or a Burqa.
    You most likely owe me a million dollars then, since she rare if at all wears a Hijab or Burqa. She is in fact quite the activist her self.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I think the word you are looking for is "infect", not "infest".
    Wrong buddy, I said infest and I meant infest. Just like cockroaches, in more ways than one.

    I'll make a deal with ya. You say what you want, in the way you want and I'll do the same with what I want to say. That work for you?


    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    How is the opposition to a legal system that regards half the population as chattel indicative of hatred or bigotry, though? I would think any actual liberal would oppose such obvious misogyny, and you must be full of hatred and bigotry against women, since you would oppose it, too, if not .
    We're weren't discussing "a legal system that regards half the population as chattel," you should try to keep up. That guy was making a completely false inference that what clothes a person was wearing somehow affected what they said.

    As to the rest of your drivel, I'll place it in the circular file where it belongs.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post

    We're weren't discussing "a legal system that regards half the population as chattel," you should try to keep up. That guy was making a completely false inference that what clothes a person was wearing somehow affected what they said.

    As to the rest of your drivel, I'll place it in the circular file where it belongs.
    Yes yes the Burqa and Hijab are not overt signs of gender discrimination. In fact they're a sign of woman's liberation.

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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Wrong buddy, I said infest and I meant infest. Just like cockroaches, in more ways than one.

    I'll make a deal with ya. You say what you want, in the way you want and I'll do the same with what I want to say. That work for you?




    We're weren't discussing "a legal system that regards half the population as chattel," you should try to keep up. That guy was making a completely false inference that what clothes a person was wearing somehow affected what they said.

    As to the rest of your drivel, I'll place it in the circular file where it belongs.
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    Re: Imam’s wife: Nixing mosque ‘not option’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Except the Ulama in all five mainstream Schools of Islamic Fiqh (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali, and Ja'fari) have ruled through Ijma that apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, and/or premarital sex are capital and/or corporal offenses. Call me when any mainstream Christian sect starts calling for the death penalty or lashings for those non-crimes, or even calling for the criminilization of those actions.
    Page 16 of the relevant report. To paraphrase from the table: To the statement "Homosexuality is a way of life that should be discouraged by society"; 61% of Muslims agreed, 64% of evangelical Protestants agreed, 68% of Mormons agreed and 76% of Jehova's Witnesses agreed. (Oh, and 10% of agnostics; the lowest group )

    Clearly churches should only be built if they're not Evangelical or Mormon. Other tables in the report show a similar pattern, for example Muslims see less 'conflict between religion and modern society' than all of the Cristian faiths, and find that their 'values are threatened by Hollywood' less than all groups but historically black Protestant churches (page 14).

    Islam is adapting, especially in (comparatively liberal) places like the US, where an alternative to fundamentalism is clearly visible and legally protected. Alienating Muslims by insisting that they're all really secret fundamentalists will only drive them in that direction; it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
    Last edited by iangb; 08-21-10 at 01:13 PM.
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