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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Yeah, the guy should get life in prison or death. I doubt a doctor would want to do such a thing. Who knows?
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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    It's barbaric, but you cannot argue that the punishment does not fit the crime.
    It's certainly no less logical than a life for a life.
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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    It's certainly no less logical than a life for a life.
    Actually, it is. A life for a life means the criminal can't kill again. A man paralyzed from the waist down can still hurt other people.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Actually, it is. A life for a life means the criminal can't kill again. A man paralyzed from the waist down can still hurt other people.
    The original report does not mention "from the waist down", but says:

    "Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22, was left paralyzed and subsequently lost a foot after a fight more than two years ago. He asked a judge in northwestern Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker..."

    It does not specifiy the extent of his paralysis, why are you assuming it's just from the waist down? In any case, the logical principle of like-for-like punishment is the same.
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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    When it first came up, it was a good policy because eye for an eye was originally instituted to curtail punishment given to a criminal. However, we're now even further from that point now and eye for and eye is a very simplistic and at times barbaric practice. Base everything on the rights and liberties of the indivudal and you'll be much better off for it.
    You're quite right about this Ikari, and by the same principle we've blessedly moved beyond the barbaric theory of individual "liberties," which became barbarically antiquated notions something at the end of the nineteenth century, into the modern era where fundamental human rights and recognizes that infringement on the abstract concept of "individual liberty" is often necessary to meet overarching obligations to preserve human dignity and the common rights on mankind. Even better than the individual rights model, base everything on interconnected human rights and overarching duty to humanity as a whole, and you'll be even better for it. Yes, you might just be onto something here, Ikari. Why does certain groups persist in adhering to obsolete models of morality like "eye for an eye" or "free market" when the more advanced morality of modernity is available to us? Dogmatism, I suppose, is at the root of it.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    The punishment does fit the crime. He attacked a man with a cleaver, paralyzed him so he gets the same punishment.

    Whether we agree with it or not is irrelevant. It's their country.
    They are still a bunch of backwards assholes.

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