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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Didn't say that, I'm saying that NOT EVERYONE, shares such a view of the value of human life. And offered a different perspective.
    Fair enough. As my original comment implied, I can understand the logic behind this. I have no emotional investment in what the government of Saudi Arabia does to its own citizens.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What you call perverse they call justice, what you claim "civilized society" is a weak society that allows such crimes to flourish.
    And I am certain that they would express strong moral disapproval for my attitude, as well. I am comfortable with that. It doesn't influence my position on this.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Fair enough. As my original comment implied, I can understand the logic behind this. I have no emotional investment in what the government of Saudi Arabia does to its own citizens.



    And I am certain that they would express strong moral disapproval for my attitude, as well. I am comfortable with that. It doesn't influence my position on this.
    I see their position, and I think there is merit to it, however such would never fly in Western Society so it's really a moot point.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Maiming criminals does not serve any constructive purpose. It is nothing more than petty revenge, and revenge has no place in a civilized legal system.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Maiming criminals does not serve any constructive purpose. It is nothing more than petty revenge, and revenge has no place in a civilized legal system.
    Okay. That's fine. I think there is a lot to be said for punishment that actually deters the crime. Because while our current system may make you feel all nice and wonderful you have to admit there ARE problems with our feel nice system.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Why ever not, after all the US Military regularly doles out cruel and unusual punishment to their prisoners.
    That is unsubstantiated rhetoric. Shame on you.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Same here.
    It's barbaric, it's backwards, it's primitive, it should never be implemented in a moral and civilized society - but the criminal deserves it.
    Whether or not he deserves it is irrelevent. This is why I refer to the Saudi government as a bunch of backwards barbarians. Their government is a shining example of what happens when religion is allowed to interfere in govenment. It's shameful, and the Saudi government, should be internationally condemned for even CONSIDERING it.

    Backwards assholes.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Whether or not he deserves it is irrelevent. This is why I refer to the Saudi government as a bunch of backwards barbarians. Their government is a shining example of what happens when religion is allowed to interfere in govenment. It's shameful, and the Saudi government, should be internationally condemned for even CONSIDERING it.

    Backwards assholes.
    Aren't you the guy who cries for everyone who does anything you think is bad to be "removed" or killed?
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Aren't you the guy who cries for everyone who does anything you think is bad to be "removed" or killed?
    No, that would make me a republican. I just call them I see them. Also ... the Saudis ARE a bunch of backwards assholes. There is no denying this fact.

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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    The punishment does fit the crime. He attacked a man with a cleaver, paralyzed him so he gets the same punishment.

    Whether we agree with it or not is irrelevant. It's their country.
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    Re: Report: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment

    It just seems unnecessary. All it does is take one cruel punishment and repeat it to someone else, and the net effect is two people whose lives have been destroyed. Nothing gets solved really. There is no catharsis, no reparation, and no restorative justice there. It's just two people getting completely ****ed.

    It's true that the person could be innocent, but I don't think that kind of excuse is even needed. The act itself is impractical and not productive, regardless if the convicted person is truly guilty or not.

    I would also hate to be the doctor who has to do that surgery to paralyze a man. I know I wouldn't do it, but maybe things would be different if it were the Saudis putting pressure on me.

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