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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    I don't know whether Obama is a muslim or not. God knows Obama's heart and whether he knows Jesus as his Savior or not, and that's good enough for me. And if Obama does turn out to be as bad as they are saying he might, it's Jesus who he will have to answer to, and I'm afraid for anyone who meets Jesus without knowing him, including Obama.

    But something stuck in my memory. I was watching an interview with Rick Warren before he was elected and he Confessed Jesus died on the cross for his sins, and that's all someone really has to do to be saved, so for me the issue is settled. It's at 6:50-7:00

    YouTube - (Part 2/10) 2008 Presidential Forum at Saddleback Church

    Now that doesn't mean he gets a pass for any bad stuff he does, it just means that I heard it from him, and I hope it's really true and I'll see him in heaven one day. Remember, born-again Christians don't have their incorruptable bodies yet, and the only difference between saved and lost people is that the saved have accepted forgivness for all their sins while the unsaved haven't taken Jesus's offer.

    Bottom line is, God knows where Obama stands, and God knows what's going on. And yes, I do know about him bashing the sermon on the mount and covering up Christian symbols and things, but he'll have to work those things out with God in his own heart if he is really saved. I know it could possibly not be true, but that really isn't for me to say.

    BTW was it nessecerry to attack Christians for no reason?
    Last edited by Southern Belle; 08-19-10 at 06:03 PM.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    Could it be that they are closet bigots themselves? It seems obvious to me.
    Muslim=bad
    Call someone a Muslim=bigot because Muslims are bad.


    In fact ... no one said "Muslim =bad" so I am not sure where you coming from there.

    Again, why call hard working Americans racist for saying they believe Obama is a Muslim?

    I may not like Islam (I detest the religion, its hatred of homosexuality, its innate anti-Semitism and its assault on women's rights and its built in hatred of Hinduism and Buddhism), but I will die for the right of *every* Muslim to worship in our nation.

    What Americans think is not "racist" - its fact.

    I guess I wasn't plain enough.... try this.

    Why would someone call you a bigot for calling someone a Muslim, unless in their own mind, being a Muslim is bad?

    Would they call you a bigot if you said someone was a really great guy?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Are you serious? Do you really think people are claiming Obama is a Muslim and wanting him to come out as a Muslim just because they want him to be honest and that they don't themselves have extremely negative views of Muslims? I don't know what country you've been living in for the past 9 years...
    So in your mind, being a Muslim is bad?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    I may not like Islam...
    Granted, this is purely anecdotal, but the majority of the people I have seen who claim that Obama is mulsim have a similar distaste for Islam.

    They also seem to have a dislike for Obama himself.

    What I've yet to encounter was a person who had neutral feelings about both Obama and Islam say that Obama is a muslim.

    Is that just a crazy coincidence, or it is a general trend?
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I guess I wasn't plain enough.... try this.

    Why would someone call you a bigot for calling someone a Muslim, unless in their own mind, being a Muslim is bad?

    Would they call you a bigot if you said someone was a really great guy?
    Because the mental state of the person using the term is relevant.

    If I called a gay person a fag, the fact that they were in fact gay would not change the fact that I would be doing so out of prejudice.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Because the mental state of the person using the term is relevant.

    If I called a gay person a fag, the fact that they were in fact gay would not change the fact that I would be doing so out of prejudice.
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    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Because the mental state of the person using the term is relevant.

    If I called a gay person a fag, the fact that they were in fact gay would not change the fact that I would be doing so out of prejudice.
    Your example would be valid if one were to call a person a ****ing Muslim or the like.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    FOXNews.com - Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows






    Stupid Fundamentalist Christians making America look bad.
    Thats probably the same number of Americans who believe the government masterminded 9-11, Bush lied for war, Bush stole the elections or some other liberal conspiracy theories.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Can I borrow your crystal ball? I want to make some investments in the commodities market tomorrow.
    Er, that's not actually how crystal balls (supposedly) work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Your example would be valid if one were to call a person a ****ing Muslim or the like.
    Okay, pretend I called him a homo or gay. Same concept.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    So 1/5 Americans is paranoid... or maybe they're just ahead of the curve. Sine none of us absolutely know what religion Obama is, don't we have to assume that either could be true?

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