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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So you think that our options were "Have shortsighted foreign policy" or "Do nothing"?
    Granted, as Charlie Wilson said, "We ****ed up the end game", but aside from that, what should have been done?
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If I'm wrong, you will wipe them from the face of the Earth.
    Why take that chance? Why not prevent Iran from building a nuke and taking that option off the table?





    They know you'll retaliate, that's why they won't attack you.
    Not if we have a president that has stated that he won't meet a nuke with a nuke.



    I'm explaining their reasoning, not defending it. It's not as simple as "They're crazy terrorists that want nukes"

    That's like 1/100th of the reason. They wanna make sure you won't invade them, having a nuke garuntee's them safety. It's a reason, not a defence of them apdst, nice baiting though.
    They're increasing the odds that we will invade them. It doesn't make any sense. Hence, they are crazy terrorists that want nukes.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why take that chance? Why not prevent Iran from building a nuke and taking that option off the table?
    I never commented on that. But yes, that is a viable option.

    Not if we have a president that has stated that he won't meet a nuke with a nuke.
    /Facepalm

    That's not what happened apdst, don't misrepresent his nuclear policy.

    Mr. Obama’s new strategy makes just about every non-nuclear state immune from any threat of nuclear retaliation by the United States. But it carves out an exception for Iran and North Korea, labeled “outliers”.

    They're increasing the odds that we will invade them. It doesn't make any sense. Hence, they are crazy terrorists that want nukes.
    Not exactly, they saw what happened with North Korea, and how you did basically nothing to stop them besides sanctions (this was under Clinton and Bush) They know your military is tired (not weak) and the American public has no stomach for another war. They're taking their chances. Not all that crazy of a gamble. And Israel does not have the manpower to attack Iran.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Not exactly, they saw what happened with North Korea, and how you did basically nothing to stop them besides sanctions (this was under Clinton and Bush) They know your military is tired (not weak) and the American public has no stomach for another war. They're taking their chances. Not all that crazy of a gamble. And Israel does not have the manpower to attack Iran.

    Yea! So their dream of wiping Israel off the face of the earth will become a reality....Ain't it great!


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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Don't be silly. Even I know that Snopes leans to the left. I have read it online.

    /nod
    actually they don't. you can find just as many "debunkings" regarding bush.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    actually they don't. you can find just as many "debunkings" regarding bush.
    Well, I know that. But the right doesn't.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yea! So their dream of wiping Israel off the face of the earth will become a reality....Ain't it great!


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    Saying one thing and doing it are different gigs, you should know that.

    Israel has nukes, Iran knows this, they're leaders, they wanna stay in power, if they sent a nuke to israel, Israel and the US obliterates their country therefore no one to hold power over...

    See how that works.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Saying one thing and doing it are different gigs, you should know that.

    Israel has nukes, Iran knows this, they're leaders, they wanna stay in power, if they sent a nuke to israel, Israel and the US obliterates their country therefore no one to hold power over...

    See how that works.

    That would be all well and good, and I might even be inclined to agree with you, if it weren't for the Iranian President being a vocal subscriber to the theory of the 12th Imam.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    The polls aren't getting better regarding those who beleive Obama is perhaps a secret muslim. Here is the latest from TIME:

    "Do you personally believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim or a Christian?"

    24% Muslim
    47% Christian
    24% Unsure
    05% Other

    The thread refers to the [earlier] much publicized Pew poll which indicated 18% think he's muslim and only 34% of americans believe he's christian. I wonder if the new poll is trending and if so... would it be good or bad for america?

    The president's religion is irrelevant to his job performance but important to his electability. I agree with Mitch Mconnell who said if he says he's a christian... "I'll take him on his word". However, many others don't beleive him and think he's some kinda secret or closet muslim. It doesn't help that he carries a foreign, even Muslim-sounding name, his father was muslim, and attended a muslim school during childhood in Indonesia.

    Obama has essentially brought this debate on himself because of his inconsistancy between his christian faith and some of his actions. On one hand he says he supports the ground zero mosque... then later says "I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there... Then later on says he stands by his statement... which one??

    Some also feel he spends more time appeasing muslims then showing support for christians which could feed into the confusion. According to one poll 60 percent of those who are convinced Obama is Muslim say they learned that from the media. These people are misinformed based on what they see on the news... not uninformed. He's been shown worshipping with Muslims with his shoes off, he's bowed to Muslim leaders including the king of Saudi Arabia... and since becoming president, no longer attends a Christian church. He makes the excuse he doesn't want to interfere with services for other christians on sunday. However, he's seen quite frequently playing sunday golf and apparently has no problem disrupting others on the course. He spent Christmas in Hawai and didn't attend any service celebrating the birth of Christ. Those things don't go unnoticed by the leader of the free world. No wonder only 34% of americans take him at his word....

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    I'm not sure about the significance of people being silly and inaccurate things?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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