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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    Actually, I'd say no. Right wingers may try to influence, but they can't do anything directly. We still have legalized abortion, which the right wingers would have never allowed it in it's present form. Some Muslim countries still cut limbs off for various theft crimes.
    Probably the biggest issue the "Christian right" has influence on is Same Sex Marriage. About the only reason to not want to legalize SSM is religious, and IMO the only reason it hasn't yet. Though, I would agree with you that don't have nearly the influence that they can completely control the country.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

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    I don't know of any Christian theocracy's today, except maybe the Vatican. The parallel isn't exclusive to Christianity, it's for all religions, and that using religion in government is a bad thing. No matter what religion.

    The Vatican does not control Italian government in any where near the same way that Islamic clerics have control over islamic states. But you make my point. The fact that you must reach back centuries to justify tolerance for a barbaric form of government and subjugation of the people that Islam provides, then parlay it into some argument for tolerance of a mosque of conquest at a site that tramples on the memories of the victims of that day is to me wholly disingenuous. Sorry.

    It's not a justification, it's just an example of how Islam isn't special, and it's not the only religion that was/is used to control governments.
    So what?! And how exactly is that supposed to further tolerance today for this mosque?


    We shouldn't ignore them, but we shouldn't have this fear of Islam that some people have.
    They have declared thousands of fatwa's and calls to Jihad against us. Are we supposed to ignore that? This pre 9/11 mindset is what cost us on that day, and now the argument is that, 'ah, forget them, they are no threat'? Really?

    For American, I don't think so. Why should we have to police the world?
    And whom would you abdicate that to? China? Russia? Iran?


    They shouldn't be ignored, but there not a threat to our freedoms that some people would make them out to be.
    What did this mindset get us before 2001?

    Our Constitution protects us from anyone who wants to put any religion into our laws.
    Obama says that the constitution is a charter of 'negative liberties'.


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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Probably the biggest issue the "Christian right" has influence on is Same Sex Marriage. About the only reason to not want to legalize SSM is religious, and IMO the only reason it hasn't yet. Though, I would agree with you that don't have nearly the influence that they can completely control the country.

    Does the "Christian Right" kill homosexuals?


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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    That blog holds as much credibility as something that is, well, not that credible. Okay, maybe my metaphor skills could use a little work.

    That blog is an islamiphobist piece of garbage with no real use anywhere. And I'm not using Islamiphobist lightly here. It's pretty appropriate when talking about that blog.
    I'd say it is what it is. The information can be looked up. Discredit the info if you'd like. The piece about the inventions is what I was after. If it's inaccurate please let us know.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Does the "Christian Right" kill homosexuals?


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    Do muslims in this country kill homosexuals?

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Do muslims in this country kill homosexuals?
    Isn't that a bit out there? You need to talk about Muslim's in their country, and what is acceptable. They'll go to jail for it here. They know the rules are different here.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Do muslims in this country kill homosexuals?

    What kind of question is that? Preface it so disingenuously as you did, sorry dude, you have officially lost it.


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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Does the "Christian Right" kill homosexuals?


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    As a whole, no. But some members of the Christian Right have.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    As a whole, no. But some members of the Christian Right have.
    And by the logic used by thse insulted by the Mosque, we can't have a Christian church anywhere near where homosexuals have bene killed. Thier beliefs have to be held against all Christinas / conservatives.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What kind of question is that? Preface it so disingenuously as you did, sorry dude, you have officially lost it.


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    The reason I ask is, you love to tell us how awful Islam is. How it treats gays and so on.

    But my point was... DO THEY DO IT HERE?

    No? Good.

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