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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Please read, my dear:

    Inventions in medieval Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, things like Algebra, Chemistry, and Astronomy? Those seem a little vital to you? Thank a Muslim for that. Oh, and for lipstick.
    LOL Never trust an open source for your information Guy.

    Ever heard of Aristotle? You remember him from school right? Avicenna (980-1037) and Averroes (1128-1190) built on his work in Astronomy. Christians saved his work from the Dark ages by Probus of Antioch in the 5th century who introduced Aristotle to the Arabic world along with Christian Huneyn ibn Ishaw (809-973) who not only translated Aristotle by Galen, Plano and Hippocrates into Syriac which his son then traslated into Arabic.

    The Jacobite Christian Yahya ibn Adi (893-974) also translated the works of philosophy into Arabic.

    Andreas Vesalius (1514-1564) paved the way for modern medical advances by publishing the first accurate descritption of human organs De Humani Corporis Fabrica. It was him and not the Muslim world because his faith did not preclude autopsies something forbidden in Islam.

    As far as Algebra, Abu Ja'far Muhhamad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (780-850) considered one of the greatest mathmatitions in history and where the term "algorithm" comes from gathered his material including the zero from pre Islamic India hundreds of years earlier.

    So yes there were great accomplishments but they were born from other people's work from Europe and India.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Never trust an open source for your information Guy.

    Ever heard of Aristotle? You remember him from school right? Avicenna (980-1037) and Averroes (1128-1190) built on his work in Astronomy. Christians saved his work from the Dark ages by Probus of Antioch in the 5th century who introduced Aristotle to the Arabic world along with Christian Huneyn ibn Ishaw (809-973) who not only translated Aristotle by Galen, Plano and Hippocrates into Syriac which his son then traslated into Arabic.

    The Jacobite Christian Yahya ibn Adi (893-974) also translated the works of philosophy into Arabic.

    Andreas Vesalius (1514-1564) paved the way for modern medical advances by publishing the first accurate descritption of human organs De Humani Corporis Fabrica. It was him and not the Muslim world because his faith did not preclude autopsies something forbidden in Islam.

    As far as Algebra, Abu Ja'far Muhhamad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (780-850) considered one of the greatest mathmatitions in history and where the term "algorithm" comes from gathered his material including the zero from pre Islamic India hundreds of years earlier.

    So yes there were great accomplishments but they were born from other people's work from Europe and India.
    Yeah. It's wiki, I know. But to claim that Christians invented everything and Muslims nothing is so childish, that wiki is source enough to disprove it.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    He has been observed eating before sun down - yes. However, I have recently been notified via another forum that it - "Doesn’t matter. Muslims allow this if you are fooling infidels."

    Good Grief.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Don't know, but I just realized something. I have a lying A hole for a friend! She says she is Jewish. I've seen her eat ham before. OMG, I just remembered something else! At my house she would always take a hotdog off the grill and eat it while we were waiting on chicken or burgers. She never once asked if I had puchased all beef weinies!
    So, what you're saying is the President isn't a "true" Muslim because he doesn't follow the religion religiously. I'd have to say that line of thinking kinda blows a hole is the "fear-factor" aspect of the "the President is a Muslim" claim don't you think? I mean, it's the fear angle that many are using, i.e., Muslim extremist, insistance on applying Shariah Law = Muslims...bad, no matter how you slice it and that's wrong. Besides, even if he is a Muslim, it's his choice under the Constitution to choose for himself (and his family to a degree) to practise whatever religious faith he chooses.

    Here's an interesting question...something that hasn't been asked yet...

    If the President is a Muslim, why don't we see the 1st Family dressing in traditional female Muslim attire? Wouldn't they have to comply to the basic tenants as well? Just asking questions...
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    No, I'm not digging at all. Freedom of religion. Muslims are everywhere, you can't say Muslim countries and say that's how things are, that's who they are and what they do.

    By the way? My niece-in-law is Muslim, as is one of my business partners.
    What you just said about ,"you can't say Muslim countries and say that's how things are, that's who they are and what they do" doesn't make sense to me. As far as having relatives and business partners, what has that got to do with what we're talking about?
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by zip98053 View Post
    I don’t believe that religion has ever been the engine of invention. We call it the Enlightenment because people were being enlightened that the Catholic dogma about secular matters was wrong. This enlightenment came about as a consequence of commerce, not because of religious scholarship. I think that you would be hard pressed to find examples where religious belief drove technological or social advancement. What has tended to be the case is that when the beliefs of the dominant religion begins to conflict with economic, social, or political pressures; either the religion morphs or it is replaced with a new religion (or splinter religion). Too often, religion is the tool of oppression and stagnation not the force for invention.
    Moreso with Muslims.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Please read, my dear:

    Inventions in medieval Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, things like Algebra, Chemistry, and Astronomy? Those seem a little vital to you? Thank a Muslim for that. Oh, and for lipstick.
    Please read, my dear:

    The Myth of Islamic Inventions
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    Please read, my dear:

    The Myth of Islamic Inventions
    That blog holds as much credibility as something that is, well, not that credible. Okay, maybe my metaphor skills could use a little work.

    That blog is an islamiphobist piece of garbage with no real use anywhere. And I'm not using Islamiphobist lightly here. It's pretty appropriate when talking about that blog.
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    About the Islamic customs for women's attire: There are places where woman are mistreated, beaten, killed for not following the rules. Obviously, that's awful. But, many muslim women dress that way because they feel it is appropriate. We have clothing laws and it would be terrible if a woman was beaten or killed because she went out naked. But that doesn't make wearing clothes wrong or oppressive. Are we to assume that Joseph beat Mary into covering her head? Or was she pure and reverent and chaste? Hmmm... All of the harsh judgements about Islam come from lack of knowledge=fear. The people with the radical opinions are not friendly with Muslims, so they know nothing but what the pundits tell them. I have had many muslim friends, women and men, and have found them to be charitable, good people. Many of the women, no parents here, no husband, choose to cover their heads. Leave it alone.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    You know you make your opponents point any time you point at something like that, don't you? Maybe not. It's like saying, "See, I believe anything the radicals tell me, because I didn't think History was important, so I have no reference point. I don't know where they got their information. I just read it and believe it, because it makes me feel better about the opinions I already decided to go with."
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Never trust an open source for your information Guy.

    Ever heard of Aristotle? You remember him from school right? Avicenna (980-1037) and Averroes (1128-1190) built on his work in Astronomy. Christians saved his work from the Dark ages by Probus of Antioch in the 5th century who introduced Aristotle to the Arabic world along with Christian Huneyn ibn Ishaw (809-973) who not only translated Aristotle by Galen, Plano and Hippocrates into Syriac which his son then traslated into Arabic.
    LOL nice rewriting of history there.... putting Christianity into a positive light and Muslims in a negative. The Dark Ages.. why were they the dark ages? Because Christianity ran amok in Europe killing off or exiling anyone with half a brain. They forced converted non Christians and banned non Christian texts. It was only because of brave people, Christian and non Christian, that the texts survived outside the cestpool called Christian Europe of the dark ages.

    The Jacobite Christian Yahya ibn Adi (893-974) also translated the works of philosophy into Arabic.
    And? Christian's still did not write those philosophical works.. heathens did!

    Andreas Vesalius (1514-1564) paved the way for modern medical advances by publishing the first accurate descritption of human organs De Humani Corporis Fabrica. It was him and not the Muslim world because his faith did not preclude autopsies something forbidden in Islam.
    So because he published the first accurate description of human organs then Muslims did in no way contribute to medicine? You should go back to your history classes and get a refund, because many of the basic tools we use today in surgery were originally invented by muslims.. ups.

    As far as Algebra, Abu Ja'far Muhhamad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (780-850) considered one of the greatest mathmatitions in history and where the term "algorithm" comes from gathered his material including the zero from pre Islamic India hundreds of years earlier.
    And that some how makes his contribution less important?

    So yes there were great accomplishments but they were born from other people's work from Europe and India.
    And? Far from all... you have been very selective in your comments. You forgot Astrology for one.. wonder why.
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