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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by prrriiide View Post
    No. It was Americans. Many of the American soldiers in Bosnia were Muslim. We don't have an established religion in this country. Yes, I'm sure I read that somewhere...
    You got an actual number? I was in The Balkans, with 1/26 infantry and don't recall nary a one.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Do you realize that the reason we live in this country is because the colonists wiped out Native Americans, claiming that they were barbarians who hadn't accepted Christ? And Christopher Columbus did the exact same thing when he came over from Europe. The colonization of both North and South America was based on Christians killing in the name of divine right.

    9/11 was not done for religious reasons. It was done for political reasons. They hate America because America occupies the Arabian peninsula, interferes with their politics, inserts puppet dictators and steals their oil. Moderate Muslims condemn acts of terror, but when you have a whole region destroyed by war and poverty, extremism is going to manifest itself there and it cannot be completely stopped.

    It's amazing to me how ignorant Americans still are. Do you think the Muslim world likes Barack Obama? Let me tell you, they don't. They like him better than Bush, but they don't agree with his policies at all. Not that facts are going to persuade you, but I thought at least one or two people here could get something out of the truth.
    That ended 100 years ago and we've been paying the Indians back for it, ever since. However, the Muslims are still practicing conversion by the sword. It's funny how Liberals will bust their asses to defend such behavior.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes. I would guess that most our our citizens who have died violently in this country have been killed by christians.
    Are you really going to go with that?

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? 1.4 billion people still practice slavery? Who knew.
    Of course not all Muslims own slaves, just like not all American owned slaves, however the slave trade is very active among Muslim nations. Didn't you complain about someone making absolute statements not too long ago?

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Might I suggest it's in your best interest to be more specific.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes. I would guess that most our our citizens who have died violently in this country have been killed by christians.
    Were those murderers killing people for religious reasons, or because they were just dirt bag criminals who killed people for whatever rationale they had at the time?
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    But we weren't talking about Christian, Muslim, and Jewish relations, we were talking about religious tolerance.
    No this entire discussion started because of Christian and Muslim relations.
    That is until you popped up with Muslims and India.

    We aren't talking about that region or group which had an entirely different relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Under the Sharia of the Otttoman empire the testimony of a non-Muslim against a Muslim was viewed as worthless if they were even allowed to testify against the Muslim at all.
    Bull****.

    Being a dhimmi was not totally played out like that.
    You're adopting an entirely hardline concept and applying it to the whole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Again, Muslims were allowed to prosteltyze in the Ottoman Empire but non-Muslims were not. What exactly do you base your assertion that Dawa was not largely practiced in the Ottoman Empire? How do you think they got all of those people to convert?
    Dawa was largely practiced in a particular region for the specific purpose of influencing their power base near Europe.
    It was not a common practice through out the entire empire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    WTF? That's the Jizya tax, I said Devşirme which was the institutionalized practice within the Ottoman Empire of stealing Christian Children and converting them to Islam and using them to fill the ranks of their military. If that's not a forced conversion then I don't know what is. In fact that is not only an example of forced conversion but an example of ethnic cleansing as well.
    It is not ethnic cleanings.
    They were not trying to homogenize the people, quite the opposite was true for the empire.

    Yes that particular example is forced conversion but it in no way does not mean that the weren't intolerant of Christians.
    No matter how hard you might try to paint the picture for that to be true.


    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    lol ya o.k. forcefully expelling entire Christian Communities from their homes and their lands and then forcefully transferring them from one part of the Empire to another is not an example of forced expulsion.
    Expulsion from a country for religiously prejudice reasons, is not the same as creating an economic heterogeneous population.

    You know this, you're being dishonest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    They expelled entire Christian communities from their homes and their lands, that is forced population transfer which is an example of ethnic cleansing.
    Bull ****.
    They did it for economic reasons, not to cleanse the land of Christians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Ottoman Empire did the exact same things you act like uprooting entire Christian Communities and engaging in forced population transfers is somehow better than kicking people out of the country.
    Yes it is entirely different.
    One is meant to harm a group, the other is meant for economic and civil structure reasons.


    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The historical record is something which you are completely ignoring in order to illustrate some fanciful age of Islamic tolerance that never existed.
    It did exist, you pull up occasional examples of intolerance and cite those as truth for the whole empire.
    You're argument is based on exceptions and not the rule.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    It surprises me none that 20% of the country gets their education from Rush Limbaugh or FAUXNews.... Hate the game, don't hate the playa....
    Supply links if you are going to try to pass this kind of BS.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    21% of Americans still think George W Bush isn't a idiot. Hmmmm...
    Thanks to Obama, that number is growing, everyday. The Dems are even calling for Bush to bail out Obama on the Ground Zero mosque issue.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    People in this thread need to stop equating believing Obama is a muslim and being a birther, they are two completely different things.
    Two totally different sides of the same stupid coin.

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