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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    LOL, your article clearly states that this is the highest estimate and that credible estimates go as low as 900,000.
    Your own article states that credible estimates put the number as low as 900,000.
    I'm pretty sure that the settlers in North America were more interested in getting away from religious persecution.

    Well aside from the fact that not one of the three countries which you listed are in the Middle East, besides Kharzai we didn't do anything which could even be construed as installing them, and Musharaff actively worked against U.S. interests.
    I never said the United States inserts puppet dictators in the Middle East, although we do. I said that one of the major reasons we are targeted by terrorist organizations was for installing puppet dictators in general. I was trying to keep my arguments to the Middle East region because that's what you wanted to argue about, but that region certainly doesn't contain the best examples. Historically, our puppet dictators have been installed in other parts of the world -- places like Honduras (Roberto Cordova) and Taiwan (Chiang Kai-shek), El Salvador (Cristiani), South Vietnam (Ngo Dinh Diem), and in Africa -- Liberia (Samuel Doe), Zaire (Mobuto Sese Seko) and Morocco (Hassan II). The Carter Administration inserted Ferdinand Marcos in the Phillipines. The CIA backed Efrain Rios Montt's campaign to oust the leadership in Guatemala. We inserted Noriega in Panama. We continued to support Ozal in Turkey despite the fact that he committed many of the same crimes we criticized Saddam Hussein for. For 20 years, we backed Pahlevi in Iran, with the CIA managing daily operations to support his tactics of torture and violent suppression. And remember Pinochet in Chile? Guess who led the effort to overthrow his predecessor? These are not all examples of dictators that the United States flat out "installed," but most of them are, and we financially supported every single one of them. And the President in Azerjiban is widely viewed as a product of American influence, although it's hard to say what is and isn't true there.

    As to the population of Native Americans, perhaps you should read more carefully. The estimate of 900,000 was credible at the time -- 100 years ago. Since then, no attempt to discern the actual number has used such primitive methodology (they were estimates that were based on multiplying previously recorded estimates) and none have ever estimated the number to be so low. That's why I used the number 12 million, all of the most credibly studies hover around 12 million. It's funny that you "clarified" that 18 million is the highest estimate, since my post SAID that's the highest estimate. Either way, there's a more important number -- .8%. Native Americans used to comprise 100% of this country, now they are .8% of the nation's demographic. We took their land, brutally killed their men, women, and children, and subsequently destroyed major portions of their languages and cultural traditions, then we forced them to convert to Christianity.

    I'm not sure why you would want to defend these actions. It removes any credibility you might otherwise retain.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    in his defense, although i can't prove it.....i'll bet that most of the people who believe he is muslim are also racist. that ignorance goes hand in hand.
    And irony raises its ugly head.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    And irony raises its ugly head.
    Might I suggest it's in your best interest to be more specific.

    I wish you didn't have that user name. I actually love jambalaya, it's my specialty.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Some people also think he is a Kenyan citizen who stole the presidency.

    And some even think he is a Communist Nazi terrorist, who eats babies.
    Are you trying to say Kenya is a muslim country? Do you have any proof?
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What a stupid thing to say. Most liberals are christian.
    I stand by that remark. There's a lot of hatred on these boards towards Christian's, but not Muslim's.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    I stand by that remark. There's a lot of hatred on these boards towards Christian's, but not Muslim's.
    There is? Because frankly, I'm not seeing it.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    I stand by that remark. There's a lot of hatred on these boards towards Christian's, but not Muslim's.
    Norma Jean, that's just silly.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Might I suggest it's in your best interest to be more specific.

    I wish you didn't have that user name. I actually love jambalaya, it's my specialty.
    I took the name because it is also one of my specialties. I can make a helluva gumbo too. Surely you are not saying my opinions are distasteful (pun intended).

    We have a thread showing the ignorance of one in five people who think Obama is Muslim with an accompanying ignorant comment that those ignorant people were probably religious fundamentalist and after we pointed out how ignorant that statement was we have someone ignorantly saying it was racists mostly calling him a Muslim. Maybe I am not using ironic properly but calling people ingorant to think Obama is Muslim and then saying something in the same thread that bascially displays the same type of ignorace in an almost identical way is what?
    Last edited by jambalaya; 08-20-10 at 12:59 PM.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    I took the name because it is also one of my specialties. I can make a helluva gumbo too. Surely you are not saying my opinions are distasteful (pun intended).
    Totally OT: PM me your recipe? Mine is completely bastardized, what with me being in the north and figuring it out myself and all. Please?

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Totally OT: PM me your recipe? Mine is completely bastardized, what with me being in the north and figuring it out myself and all. Please?
    Jambalaya has many variations so your bastardization could be as good as any other. The dish was made for experimentation. I've tried a number of different recipes and methods. With one I make a roux, with others I don't. I have a red jambalaya that uses tomatoes and tomato paste and a brown variety that uses no tomato products. When I get home today I'll try to find the one I've been using lately and hopefully the internet link from which I got it.

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