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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    21% of Americans consider themselves to be Liberal, too. Hmmmmm!!!
    21% of Americans still think George W Bush isn't a idiot. Hmmmm...

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Everyones looking at this wrong.

    This is a good thing.

    It shows LESS of America is stupid then it previously was.

    Previously 1 in 4 Americans thought the government had a hand in 9/11.

    See, now the crazies are only 1 in 5.

    We're reducing the number of crazies!

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Everyones looking at this wrong.

    This is a good thing.

    It shows LESS of America is stupid then it previously was.

    Previously 1 in 4 Americans thought the government had a hand in 9/11.

    See, now the crazies are only 1 in 5.

    We're reducing the number of crazies!
    Except some nuts still believe the government had a hand in 9/11.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    9/11 wasn't even done in the name of Islam. Osama said it was retaliation for American involvement in Lebanon in the 80s so why are we holding Muslims accountable for 9/11?
    Oh will you cut that tired **** out.

    A large portion of Bin Laden's isuses with America stem from our dealings with Israel and Palestine (which are rooted in his religious beliefs) and with their involvement in the middle east in general (again tieing in with his religious beliefs). Additionally to that however, having tangible reasons doesn't remove the religious ties to it all. Such as his means of motivating others to do such attacks with such rehtoric as:

    "[t]he ruling to kill the Americans and their allies civilians and military - is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Makka) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, 'and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,' and 'fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah'"


    That is a Fatwa put out by him. His issues with Lebanon are both with the generalized issues of upset with a foreign nation aiding an enemy AND with the religious issue of them being in "the lands of Islam". He specifically uses religion to inspire people to do the terrorism they do, to justify it, to excuse it. The very way in which they did the attacks, the suicide bombings, was in and of itself motivated and reasonable to these people based on religious retoric regarding martyring themselves in the name of their god.

    Yes, you're absolutely right, it wasn't ONLY religious reasons that caused 9/11 to happen on the part of the terrorists. But it was a large reason and one that has its roots and ties connected to a great deal of the non-religious motivations as well.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    It surprises me none that 20% of the country gets their education from Rush Limbaugh or FAUXNews.... Hate the game, don't hate the playa....

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    What I find sad and somewhat disturbing is that people care.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The facts are that religious tolerance was expressed more in a Muslim country than it was in Christian countries of that time.
    The fact is you are simply wrong all throughout this time period the Muslims were busy perpetrating the largest genocide the world would see until Hitler against the Buddhists and the Hindus on the Indian Subcontinent.

    Your choice, to live as a Dhimmi (with all the same or similar rights as a regular citizen) or be killed, expelled, treated as a second class citizen (comparatively speaking)?
    The Dhimmi were in fact 3rd class citizens (women being the 2nd class citizens), they did not have the same rights as Muslims that is an out and out lie. Likewise Christians and Jews were routinely killed during Muslim pogroms the same as Jews in Europe, this whole age of the tolerant Islam is a complete historical fabrication.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The fact is you are simply wrong all throughout this time period the Muslims were busy perpetrating the largest genocide the world would see until Hitler against the Buddhists and the Hindus on the Indian Subcontinent.
    Ok, we are talking about it in comparison to Christianity.
    I'd like to see links proving this though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Dhimmi were in fact 3rd class citizens (women being the 2nd class citizens), they did not have the same rights as Muslims that is an out and out lie. Likewise Christians and Jews were routinely killed during Muslim pogroms the same as Jews in Europe, this whole age of the tolerant Islam is a complete historical fabrication.
    Dhimmi's could own property and could, largely, practice their religion freely.
    Was it perfect, of course not.

    I'd also like to see links with further information on this.

    In comparison to Christian Europe, they were free to practice.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Do you realize that the reason we live in this country is because the colonists wiped out Native Americans,
    Thankyou Ward Churchill, they're are more Native Americans living in North America than there when the evil Europeans started taking censuses.

    claiming that they were barbarians who hadn't accepted Christ? And Christopher Columbus did the exact same thing when he came over from Europe. The colonization of both North and South America was based on Christians killing in the name of divine right.
    I wasn't aware that the Conquistodores were the ones who settled what is today the United States.

    9/11 was not done for religious reasons. It was done for political reasons.
    No it was done for religious reasons the trouble is the Islamist does not distinquish between the religious and the political.

    They hate America because America occupies the Arabian peninsula,
    And by occupies you mean has since left after the threat of Saddam was removed, and by occupied you mean was there upon invitation of their sovereign government to defend the Kingdom.

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    interferes with their politics, inserts puppet dictators
    Cite specific examples.

    and steals their oil.
    And by steal you mean found, developed, didn't do anything when they renigged on the agreed upon PSA's, and now continues to purchase.

    Moderate Muslims condemn acts of terror, but when you have a whole region destroyed by war and poverty, extremism is going to manifest itself there and it cannot be completely stopped.
    The first Muslim extremist was Mohammad. Islam has been expanding through the sword since its very founding and long long long before the U.S. came onto the scene, so your assertions simply hold no water. And Islam has itself destroyed or nearly destroyed entire peoples and their religions through a vast systematic policy of cultural genocide from the India Subcontinent to North Africa.


    It's amazing to me how ignorant Americans still are. Do you think the Muslim world likes Barack Obama? Let me tell you, they don't. They like him better than Bush, but they don't agree with his policies at all. Not that facts are going to persuade you, but I thought at least one or two people here could get something out of the truth.
    You know the policies that I don't agree with? The fact that all five mainstream branches of Islam still call for capital and/or corporal punishment for the non-crimes of apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, and/or premarital sex.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    9/11 wasn't even done in the name of Islam. Osama said it was retaliation for American involvement in Lebanon in the 80s so why are we holding Muslims accountable for 9/11?
    And this was in a speech intended for Western consumption IE al-Taqqiya propaganda.

    What OBL said in private conversation with his fellow Islamists in a video recording that was not supposed to make it to the Western world was that he was ordered to fight the Infidel until they say there is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his prophet.

    OBL is a Qutbist, he is in a war to expand Islam through offensive Jihad against the infidel and secular Muslims until all world governments are replaced by theocracies based on Sharia law with the Koran as their Constitution.

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