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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

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    Pastors who pray with Obama say he's a devout Christian - Politics AP - MiamiHerald.com

    Pastor Joel Hunter of Northland Church near Orlando, Fla. .... described the president's call to him earlier this summer when he learned that Hunter's granddaughter had brain cancer.
    "He said, 'Remember now, the Lord's with you,' " Hunter recalled. "He became my pastor for just a conversation. It was very genuine, very personal and very much at his initiative. It's one of those glimpses no one else is able to see, and if they were it wouldn't even be a question" of his faith.
    He's so Christian he authored a bill in the Illinois house to allow babies born alive who were intended for abortions to not get medical treatment. Not a Christian bone in a body who would do that.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, you commented on how they would be treated by the radical muslims. Most of the Muslims in Afghanistan just want to get through each day without becoming a collateral damage statistic.
    Perhaps if they worked, together, to destroy the Taliban, they wouldn't have to worry about becoming a collateral damage statistic.

    If, "most Muslims", are good guys, as you love to pretend, then why is the Taliban allowed to exist?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, they were all Christians. That seems to be the point you're avoiding.
    And I'm sure you have proof that not only were they ALL Christians but that the deciding factor of those involved was Christianity.

    Put up or shut up

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    "Under the millet system, non-Muslim people were considered subjects of the Empire, but were not subject to the Muslim faith or Muslim law."

    "The Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II allowed the local Christians to stay in Constantinople after conquering the city in 1453, and to retain their institutions such as the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate."

    "In 1461 Sultan Mehmed II established the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople. Previously, the Byzantines considered the Armenian Church as heretical and thus did not allow them to build churches inside the walls of Constantinople."

    "In 1492, when the Muslims and Sephardic Jews were expelled from Spain during the Spanish Inquisition, the Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II sent his fleet under Kemal Reis to save them and granted the refugees the right to settle in the Ottoman Empire."

    "Similar millets were established for the Ottoman Jewish community, who were under the authority of the Haham Başı or Ottoman Chief Rabbi;"

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    Well you accuse one group of doing harm and use that to wipe away all the good that had existed before, so I get to have fun and cut up your arguments like that.

    Enjoy it or approach this subject from a level headed point of view.
    So, all that excuses the genocide of the Armeanians in 1915? Really?!?
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And I'm sure you have proof that not only were they ALL Christians but that the deciding factor of those involved was Christianity.

    Put up or shut up
    Of course, unless you can show me which Muslims units fought with U.S. forces. Care to take on that task? I can for damn sure show you Muslims units that sided with the Nazis.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, all that excuses the genocide of the Armeanians in 1915? Really?!?
    Nope but then I never said it did.

    The sheer fact that the largest state the ever existed for Islam, tolerated Christians and Jews far better than any other Christian state that existed at the time certainly shows that all the hyperbole of "dem ebil murslims" is over blown.

    In Christian Europe, it was convert or death/expulsion.

    In the Ottoman empire it was, live and let live.
    So so evil.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, they were all Christians. That seems to be the point you're avoiding.
    Excpet teh Russians, of course. Bunch of godless commies who saved the world's ass form Hitler.

    And teh simple fact of the matter is their religion wasn't at all a factor in what they did. At all.



    Now that is revisionist history! Wars are won on land, not in the air, or at sea. Even moreso in the 18th Century. The French didn't put boots on the ground, until 1780...5 years into the war.
    Not when the other side is forced to use the sea in order to get boots on the ground.
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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course, unless you can show me which Muslims units fought with U.S. forces. Care to take on that task? I can for damn sure show you Muslims units that sided with the Nazis.
    Yep because there couldn't possibly be other denominations, religions or even atheists?

    Also, you can show proof that we were involved in those things because of Christianity and not because of other reasons such as national security, protecting allies, or stopping child predator like koresh right?

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    It is 2010, deal with it.

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    Re: Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Nope but then I never said it did.

    The sheer fact that the largest state the ever existed for Islam, tolerated Christians and Jews far better than any other Christian state that existed at the time certainly shows that all the hyperbole of "dem ebil murslims" is over blown.

    In Christian Europe, it was convert or death/expulsion.

    In the Ottoman empire it was, live and let live.
    So so evil.
    Sure, they tolerated the ones that were left, after they had conquered the region and slaughtered many Jews and Christians.

    I hope you don't think that the Muslims were always, just there?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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