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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    I'm pretty sure "Iran" is not considered a "terrorist organization" so the questions and comments suggesting the government could act on such money as if it was is likely irrelevant. If it was coming from Hamas or the Republican Guard, both of which I believe ARE recognized as terrorist organizations by the U.S., then that'd be a different ball of wax. But to my understanding the U.S. considers neither of them terrorist organizations.

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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    What a shocker this guy won't rule out taking money from the terrorist state of Iran.
    If a bunch of ignorant fools were constantly pissing and moaning about things that are essentially none of their damn business, tacitly accused me of being a terrorist despite my efforts to help the government fight terrorism, and so on, you can safely bet your ass I'D say the exact same thing.
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That is sufficient evidence to close the project down. We CANNOT allow terrorist nations to be funding construction projects. Now I am completely against this mosque.
    It is?

    I thought he actually had to, you know, take money from sources it's illegal to take them from before we could do something like that.
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    After reading the numerous threads that have cropped up regarding this Islamic mosque folks are so up-in-arms about, I realize that I need to pick a religion to join for a month or so to partake in all the shenanigans and goings on. I mean, far be it from me to compartmentalize myself to one particular mythology, but this is too rich! On one side, you have supposed peace-lovers that hail from a religion where women have few rights, they can't govern themselves, and their fundamentalists run planes into buildings. On the other, you have more supposed peace-lovers who hail from a religion that seeks to cure homosexuality, curtail women's right to choose, and their fundamentalists shoot up buildings and blow up abortion clinics. I really have no idea why these two religions can't get along, and why this building is such a big deal (sarcasm, maybe? Har har). Seems like at some point sanity would take over, but given the constant bombardment in the news about this silly mosque, I guess not.

    In any case, just a little atheist humor here, folks. After all, if we're gonna have a "my religion is better than yours" pissing contest, my so-called 'religion' should be mentioned at least once in all these threads.
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Silence, worshiper of the void! Go pray to the vacuum of space or something!



    Seriously, though, it seems like pretty much any disagreement between two major religions always devolves into a "we're" something "more than you guys are" situation.
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is actual a good question. I know it is illegal to give money to an organization that is considered a terrorist organization, but I have no idea if the reverse is true.
    Actually, it might be if Iran is deemed to be a sponsor of terrorism. If I understand the overall nature of the Military Commissions Act, if the White House considers the Iranian government as an entity that "has engaged in hostilities or has purposely and materially supported hostilities against the U.S.," the President could reverse the association between the Iman of this Islamic Community Center and the Iranian government or any individual sponsor who donates to this mosoque and use their donation as a legitimate argument for sponsoring terrorism if it is proven that the mosque is being used to promote terrorism and there would be nothing the Iman could do about it under this Act. He wouldn't be allowed to see the evidence against him; he wouldn't even be allowed a trail. In fact, any American citizen suspected of sponsoring terrorist are subject to this same scrutiny under this Act.

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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So Ron Paul was wrong to take money from White Supremacists?
    Of course it was. You think I'm a Paul supporter? LOL You need to read more of my posts.
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm pretty sure "Iran" is not considered a "terrorist organization" so the questions and comments suggesting the government could act on such money as if it was is likely irrelevant. If it was coming from Hamas or the Republican Guard, both of which I believe ARE recognized as terrorist organizations by the U.S., then that'd be a different ball of wax. But to my understanding the U.S. considers neither of them terrorist organizations.
    Actually that is incorrect

    There are special procedures related to the issuance of visas to foreign citizen from countries designated as State Sponsors of Terrorism, under provisions of the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Reform Act of 2002 (EBSVRA). Four countries, including Cuba, Syria, Sudan and Iran are impacted by these procedures.

    All applicants from State Sponsors of Terrorism countries age 16 and over, irrespective of gender, appear for an interview with a consular officer. An exception to the requirement for an interview may be made at the discretion of the consular officer in cases of A and G visa applicants (except for A-3 and G-5 applicants, who must be interviewed).


    Special visa processing procedures pursuant to Section 306
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm pretty sure "Iran" is not considered a "terrorist organization" so the questions and comments suggesting the government could act on such money as if it was is likely irrelevant. If it was coming from Hamas or the Republican Guard, both of which I believe ARE recognized as terrorist organizations by the U.S., then that'd be a different ball of wax. But to my understanding the U.S. considers neither of them terrorist organizations.
    I think they would be considered a state supporter of terrorism. I grant, I do not know, that is why I phrased it as a question and gave aspdt credit for asking an interesting question.
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    Re: Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If a bunch of ignorant fools were constantly pissing and moaning about things that are essentially none of their damn business, tacitly accused me of being a terrorist despite my efforts to help the government fight terrorism, and so on, you can safely bet your ass I'D say the exact same thing.
    I'm just shocked you started off with a baseless personal attack Dan. /sarcasm

    And I never called you a terrorist tacitly or any other way. Please stop lying about my statements.
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