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    Re: Last US Combat Troops Leave Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by political_signs View Post
    funny how the last troops left the country..... yet they dont really mentino the mercenaries that are left to clean it all up
    I assume the "private contractors" won't be under US jurisdiction anymore and will now have to comply with Iraqi government authority and laws (such as they are) if they chose to remain.

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    Re: Last US Combat Troops Leave Iraq

    I am glad we are slowly giving the Iraqis back their country and I am sure the years to come they will continue to be a strong ally in the region. Now we need to wrap up Afghanistan, go to the part of Africa where al-Quaeda is heading and hopefully within the next 3 years everyone can come home and have a party.
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    NBC and MSNBC's Olberman and Maddow will have the satisfaction of being the only news organization to live broadcast the last of the combat troops leaving Iraq and the end of the war on Iraq. The other news stations seem to have been completely caught off guard and didn't have any reporters there to witness this momentous event.
    Probably because it's only a "momentous" event on paper.
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Probably because it's only a "momentous" event on paper.
    You mean just like "Mission accomplished" on an aircraft carrier?
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You mean just like "Mission accomplished" on an aircraft carrier?
    The aircraft carrier accomplished its mission.

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You mean just like "Mission accomplished" on an aircraft carrier?
    And that was dumb too. Thanks for reminding us.
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    The aircraft carrier accomplished its mission.
    Thats true, but Bush did declare the end to all major combat operations in Iraq. That was the real stupid thing, not some PR guy thinking it would look cool to have Mission Accomplished in the background.

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Thats true, but Bush did declare the end to all major combat operations in Iraq. That was the real stupid thing, not some PR guy thinking it would look cool to have Mission Accomplished in the background.
    True, but he couldn't have predicted an insurgency and civil war, now could he?

    Major combat operations were over.

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    True, but he couldn't have predicted an insurgency and civil war, now could he?

    Major combat operations were over.
    That is very debatable given the pre-war condition of Iraq, how it had been held together and the fact that many Iraqis were very pro-Saddam. Not to mention we were attempting to occupy a country of almost 30 million people with only 300,000 troops. And the fact that during the invasion there was a huge amount of Iraqi Army units and equipment left behind. Personally I think its insane to expect to win a war and occupy a country entirely in just over a month and especially with so little fighting that occured during the invasion.

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    That is very debatable given the pre-war condition of Iraq, how it had been held together and the fact that many Iraqis were very pro-Saddam. Not to mention we were attempting to occupy a country of almost 30 million people with only 300,000 troops. And the fact that during the invasion there was a huge amount of Iraqi Army units and equipment left behind. Personally I think its insane to expect to win a war and occupy a country entirely in just over a month and especially with so little fighting that occured during the invasion.
    The military powers that be at the time, including Rumsfeld, did not consider an insurgency to constitute "major combat operations". "Major combat operations" was the maneuver and engagement of BCTs, both infantry and armor. By this definition, they were right, there were no more "major combat operations".

    Once the insurgency was in full swing 3 years later, it turns out that there were "major combat operations" left, in the form of counter-insurgency.

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