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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    LOL, when was THAT proven?

    When you give someone almost a year of advanced notice while you beg and plead the UN to follow through after Hussein's repeated dismissals of their inspection requirements........you can move weapons anywhere you want.
    The question I love to ask:
    When Clinton went to war against Iraq in December 1998, we knew he had WMDs, WMD production facilities, et al. In 2003, they were, apparently, gone.
    Where did they go?

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    How could there be more progress in the future than there have been in 7 years under US occupation? In order to have democracy you need stability, and they're more than likely to sink into a civil war.
    That's certainly one possible outcome, but I think by acknowledging that it's only a possibility, you've answered your first question.

    As for the comparison with some neighboring countries, it's to show the hypocrisy of invading a country under the pretext of "spreading democracy" while your best ally in the region is the most dictatorial regime in the world, next to North Korea.
    Which ally is that?

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    I can write it down for you then: why did the USA invade Iraq under the pretext that Saddam was a threat, while he is one of the few countries in the M/E that had absolutely nothing to do with the 911 terror attacks?
    Because the Iraq War wasn't about 9/11?
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Which ally is that?
    Saudi Arabia

    Because the Iraq War wasn't about 9/11?
    It was the second step. Anyways it was not a threat, and the documents that showed links between Iraq and Al Quaeda were forgeries.

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Saudi Arabia
    How on earth is Saudi Arabia our "best ally in the region"?

    It was the second step. Anyways it was not a threat, and the documents that showed links between Iraq and Al Quaeda were forgeries.
    See, I thought we invaded Iraq because of faulty intelligence on WMDs and Saddam's continued violation of UN resolutions. Who knew that it was because of 9/11 and Al Qaida?
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    How could there be more progress in the future than there have been in 7 years under US occupation? In order to have democracy you need stability, and they're more than likely to sink into a civil war.
    Civil war is a distinct possibility. Our remaining 50,000 troops are there to help prevent things from deteriorating again. Our troops are there to help bring lasting stability. Lasting stability is needed for democracy, you are correct. The way to lasting stability is reconciliation between the Sunnis and the Shia. Our diplomats are trying to help that. The link I posted on Shia militias shows a picture of what is working against it, on the Shia side. AQI is opposing it from the Sunni side and trying like hell to destabilize.

    What would you do at this point in time?

    As for the comparison with some neighboring countries, it's to show the hypocrisy of invading a country under the pretext of "spreading democracy" while your best ally in the region is the most dictatorial regime in the world, next to North Korea.
    I thought Israel was our best ally in the region.

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    Re: Last US Combat Troops Leave Iraq

    funny how the last troops left the country..... yet they dont really mentino the mercenaries that are left to clean it all up

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    Re: Last US Combat Troops Leave Iraq

    The last troops didn't leave the country. There are still 50K+ troops there who are just as heavily armed as any "combat" brigade.

    What will be interesting is the explanation of how our troops engaged in combat after the last combat troops left. 'Coz that's going to happen sooner or later. Strikes me as another "Mission Accomplished" moment.
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    Re: Last US Combat Troops Leave Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, it was. But back to the point, if Iraq has a civil war, why should we step in?
    I dunno, for the same reason that we should have stepped in three years prior to 1941? Just imagine how many lives would have been saved.
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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    What will Olberman say at the end of each of his shows now?!!!!
    NBC and MSNBC's Olberman and Maddow will have the satisfaction of being the only news organization to live broadcast the last of the combat troops leaving Iraq and the end of the war on Iraq. The other news stations seem to have been completely caught off guard and didn't have any reporters there to witness this momentous event.

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    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The question I love to ask:
    When Clinton went to war against Iraq in December 1998, we knew he had WMDs, WMD production facilities, et al. In 2003, they were, apparently, gone.
    Where did they go?
    Actually, in 1998 the public was led to believe by the political junta that Iraq had WMDs, but they knew they really didn't. They just used WMDs as an excuse to keep the sanctions on Iraq in place, just like they used WMDs as an excuse to attack Iraq in 2003. We were all duped.

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