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Jon Huntsman for President
I know the 'Obama is a socialist' was presented as an example . . . but on that particular note I think that 'socialist' is used as an insult - when really it's just a form of economics and governing which other countries live by.
Insult? Not in my opinion . . . but not a supposed American value? Yes.
People draw these conclusions and beliefs based on things the person says they support/don't support . . . but it's not often that people admit that those thing - even if spoken and heartfelt - don't always translate into "action"
He can *be* a socialist in heart all he wants - what matters is his actions in that direction.
Just like I can *be* all for abolishing the IRS or the SSA . . . or voucher-school programs. But does that mean that *everything* I do is me trying to get my beliefs to come true? No - actions matter more than beliefs or words.
I think Obama's influence is up - it waned earlier than I expected - but the drop off in support is quite noticeable and, in fact, he's successfully pissing people off who *use* to support him.
How he managed that I'll never know - because he's not a prick - nor is he furthering some issues that people loathed Bush for.
Last edited by Aunt Spiker; 08-22-10 at 08:42 AM.
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
The President's words, actions, and political platform do not conform to the definition of socialism. That's not an opinion.
You, you are a child molestor. What? You say otherwise? You say you've never even touched a child? It's my opinion that you're a child molestor, because I'm just going to use my own method of determining what is a child molestor. The criteria: If you've ever had a child in your field of view.
Don't you know the difference between fact and opinion?
Words mean things.
One of you will end up here next!