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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    See the part I made bold?

    Do you believe targeting civilians for political purposes is terrorism?

    Do you believe killing numerous civilians at once is a war crime?
    About WWII? Well, for good or ill, we've changed (fast forward) and go out of our way to avoid killing civilians....and yes, civilians get killed, but they are not attacked directly. Civilian deaths have occurred when the enemy deliberatly places military equipment/troopw/hardware among civilians so as to produce the civilian casualties.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!



    It is curious how many think they can re-write History when it comes to what took place to end the war and the action of the Japanese and Germans and Soviets that motivated the actions of Harry Truman.

    The atrocities of the Japanese are well documented and include what became known as the Rape of Nanking China in 1937 & 38 and they killed over 100,00 Innocent men women and children, or the massive amount of death and torture in the Philippines, or the torture of our POWs in every theater in which they fought the Japanese.

    I was studying History when I was about 12 or so when I found out they were Japanese. Up until them I had only heard them referred to as damn Japs by all the Veterans Of the South Pacific war I grew up listening to in San Diego, including my dad who was nearly killed more than once.

    Many of you who feel the dropping of the A-bombs was unnecessary apparenty never payed any attention to the estimates of up to 1,000,000 American soldiers they figure would be casualties.

    And at least that many Japanese Civilians who were being trained to resist at all costs with pointed bamboo sticks and other primitive but potentially deadly weapons.

    They also never seem to mention that the Japanese terror weapon used against us the Japanese constructed 9,000 large hydrogen balloons, crafted from mulberry paper, glued together with potato starch paste. They were 33 feet across and could lift approximately 1,000 pounds, but the lethal portion of their cargo was a 33 pound anti-personnel fragmentation bomb, attached to a 64–foot long fuse.

    They were found in Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Michigan and Iowa, as well as Mexico and Canada. The last one was launched in April 1945. The last known discovery of a functional fire balloon in North America was in 1955 - its payload still lethal even after 10 years! Japanese balloon bombs were discovered on American soil as late as 1992!

    Thank God they only killed A smal number of school children and I believe their teacher.

    Scientists have estimated that as many as 300 balloon bombs may still be scattered throughout remote areas of western United States!

    People also forget that the fire bombing of Tokyo Killed more people in one night than either A-bombs.

    In short War is hell and will always be the fight against terror needs to be stepped up close to the levels of WW-II and stop pussy footing around with namby pamby rules of engagement that just get our kids killed.

    The Imam behind the NYC Mosque is rubbing our noses in the dust of the towers and Obama's response was dead wrong. We know what the Constitution says and that is not the issue here it has to do with something the liberals are usually quick to scream about. That being sensitivity to the feeling of others.

    Don't we hear that all the time when we're being to we are intolerant of too many things such as Gays?

    Sorry to on a major rant but I am tired of people who have to clue going off on our nation and the actions of our brave men and Women in the Military past and present.


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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post


    It is curious how many think they can re-write History when it comes to what took place to end the war and the action of the Japanese and Germans and Soviets that motivated the actions of Harry Truman.

    The atrocities of the Japanese are well documented and include what became known as the Rape of Nanking China in 1937 & 38 and they killed over 100,00 Innocent men women and children, or the massive amount of death and torture in the Philippines, or the torture of our POWs in every theater in which they fought the Japanese.

    I was studying History when I was about 12 or so when I found out they were Japanese. Up until them I had only heard them referred to as damn Japs by all the Veterans Of the South Pacific war I grew up listening to in San Diego, including my dad who was nearly killed more than once.

    Many of you who feel the dropping of the A-bombs was unnecessary apparenty never payed any attention to the estimates of up to 1,000,000 American soldiers they figure would be casualties.

    And at least that many Japanese Civilians who were being trained to resist at all costs with pointed bamboo sticks and other primitive but potentially deadly weapons.

    They also never seem to mention that the Japanese terror weapon used against us the Japanese constructed 9,000 large hydrogen balloons, crafted from mulberry paper, glued together with potato starch paste. They were 33 feet across and could lift approximately 1,000 pounds, but the lethal portion of their cargo was a 33 pound anti-personnel fragmentation bomb, attached to a 64–foot long fuse.

    They were found in Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Michigan and Iowa, as well as Mexico and Canada. The last one was launched in April 1945. The last known discovery of a functional fire balloon in North America was in 1955 - its payload still lethal even after 10 years! Japanese balloon bombs were discovered on American soil as late as 1992!

    Thank God they only killed A smal number of school children and I believe their teacher.

    Scientists have estimated that as many as 300 balloon bombs may still be scattered throughout remote areas of western United States!

    People also forget that the fire bombing of Tokyo Killed more people in one night than either A-bombs.

    In short War is hell and will always be the fight against terror needs to be stepped up close to the levels of WW-II and stop pussy footing around with namby pamby rules of engagement that just get our kids killed.

    The Imam behind the NYC Mosque is rubbing our noses in the dust of the towers and Obama's response was dead wrong. We know what the Constitution says and that is not the issue here it has to do with something the liberals are usually quick to scream about. That being sensitivity to the feeling of others.

    Don't we hear that all the time when we're being to we are intolerant of too many things such as Gays?

    Sorry to on a major rant but I am tired of people who have to clue going off on our nation and the actions of our brave men and Women in the Military past and present.


    The Iman Rauf didn't have anything to do with 9/11.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    If the so called Mosque isn’t being built at ground zero then why is it called, oh never mind.
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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    If the so called Mosque isn’t being built at ground zero then why is it called, oh never mind.
    It's called the Cordoba Mosque and it isn't being built at ground zero.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    [QUOTE=Tucker Case;1059000080]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    Teh assasination in question would be an attempt to instill terror in the extremist Muslim population by killing one of their religious leaders.
    It would not be an "attempt".

    Why would anyone be terrified? He is encouraging his followers to murder at least 300,000 Americans. Shouldn't they expect a response?

    But, even if these people might be terrified following his assassination, wouldn't it be worth it to prevent the murder 300,000 Americans?

    Have you watched the video?

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

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    Is that supposed to be proof that there 150,000,000 to 225,000,000 Muslims actively engaged in terrorism worldwide?
    . You, nor Grant, nor ric27 have substantiated that claim. Grant offered a poll that said 40% of British Muslims want Sharia law applied to predominantly Muslim areas. The same poll stated that 99% of British Muslims saw the 7/7 attacks as wrong.
    Tht's right which means one percent think iy right/

    So you can work from there that one percent of British Muslims thing it right as well as one percent of Muslims in the world.

    Of course with those Muslims who have only been raised on Islamic anti Infidel anti Democratic teachings, the percentage might be a great deal higher than one per cent.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    [QUOTE=Grant;1059005620]

    Tht's right which means one percent think iy right/

    So you can work from there that one percent of British Muslims thing it right as well as one percent of Muslims in the world.

    Of course with those Muslims who have only been raised on Islamic anti Infidel anti Democratic teachings, the percentage might be a great deal higher than one per cent.
    1% does not equal 10%-15%.

    Nice try, but once again you have failed miserably.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It would not be an "attempt".

    Why would anyone be terrified? He is encouraging his followers to murder at least 300,000 Americans. Shouldn't they expect a response?

    But, even if these people might be terrified following his assassination, wouldn't it be worth it to prevent the murder 300,000 Americans?

    Have you watched the video?
    The video is a sound byte of one radical Muslim fantasizing about the destruction of the US, but he doesn't represent the views 1.5 billion Muslims anymore than Glenn Beck represents the views of all conservatives. But isn't it ironic, both want the same thing.

    But the best recruiter of all for Islamic extremists was Bush when he called the war on a terror a "crusade" and then invaded Iraq under false pretenses.
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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    [QUOTE=Degreez;1059005661]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    1% does not equal 10%-15%.

    Nice try, but once again you have failed miserably.
    I always said it was one percent according to the British survey, not ten or fifteen percent. Perhaps you should read through the survey and responses once more.

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